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It's insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others.

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[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“I do not recall.”, “You prove it was me.”, “Can you even prove it was me?”, “What proof do you have that it was me?”, “How do we know that your device isn’t malfunctioning and erroneously ticketing me?”, “I wasn’t speeding, but you’re citing me without an officer having been present to witness the act in person and verify it was me driving?”, “I am not required to make your case against me for you.” “You prove that I didn’t sell the car, or that it wasn’t borrowed without my knowledge, or that I failed to report it stolen.”, “oh, sorry, I forgot to report it stolen… but, I shouldn’t be required to defend myself after being cited, you should be required to prove it was me before citing me.”

Sure, you get cited in person and then have to go to court to defend yourself. But, at least they’ve established that you were the operator of the vehicle.

I do not suggest giving the government the opportunity or power to cite the owner by default without first establishing that you were the individual who committed the offense or crime. I also don’t suggest giving the power to automated camera devices that have been shown, in certain cases with certain devices, to be fallible in how they determine someone committed the crime or offense.

How about sending them warnings from the device and only citations from an actual officer in person when caught in the act? A certain number of warnings to the offending vehicle could require the owner to then present themselves to discuss the situation before citations are given. Refusing to present oneself by a certain period could then result in sending a police officer to the registered address to the vehicle to then continue their investigation… in person.

Just build better infrastructure.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ok, what better infrastructure do you recommend? Consider a 60mph straight road that passes through a village with shops and schools on both sides of the road, currently a 30mph speed limit through that section.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Speed plateaus are great for limiting speed. There’s a residential neighborhood in my area, two lane, 1ea either direction, that has a few of them with the gentle slopes up to a flat topped plateau and down again, not just larger speed bumps, but plateaued. You can even put cross walks on these. The speed limit in that area is 25mph in that section.

That isn’t a fix all for every* situation, but there are other options, especially other than using automated surveillance systems that are regularly questioned for being excessive, biased, fallible, and for being used by jurisdictions as free and unchecked revenue sources.

Especially when infrastructure engineering doesn’t become a revenue source that the jurisdiction then relies on, which leads them to build more, while also funneling tax payer money into third party venders who are also capable of either reviewing the data collected or viewing that data themselves. Some of these outsource to third parties to manage the traffic enforcement process, instead of having law enforcement certified and city/jurisdiction employed peace officers from being the only ones who can view or review the data.