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Dave Chappelle fills Netflix special with jokes about trans and disabled people
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 01 Jan 2024
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Me too, I can't remember anyone whining this much about a joke topic. Mass shooter and pedo jokes don't get this much scrutiny. That's kind of funny in its own right
Edit: It was hilarious, I haven't laughed that hard in a while. At this point the trans jokes are out of spite, a matter of principle. He clearly doesn't actually hate trans people
Maybe because trans people are already in fear for their safety in much of the world? It's popular for even elected conservative politicians in the US to call them mentally ill. If your identity and right to live were a fun topic for a huge comedian with a huge following, do you think you might get irked by that? School shootings can affect anyone, those aren't about a marginalized group.
Are you putting trans people on the same level as mass shooters and pedophiles...?
Odd that you're not calling for those other subjects to face condemnations and scrutiny as well. I don't think mass shooter jokes or jokes about child sexual abuse are funny. Comedy doesn't exist in a vacuum it has real-world effects on how people think and feel about the subjects it ridicules. We shouldn't tolerate the normalization of these things.
This is like the video game violence argument but much less convincing
So... you do think mass shooting and child sexual abuse should be joked about? Then what was the point of your comment at all?
It's also just true lol I don't know how to explain to you that minstrel shows were an active part of racism in America and did a lot to proliferate racist caricatures that still exist to this day. Comedy isn't magically ineffective at spreading ideology when all other forms of media are.
(Video games don't make you violent but they can spread unconscious biases about groups of people, like Muslims for example, by reinforcing who is shot at and who is doing the shooting)
It's often more effective because it feeds off of and into current societal feelings. It can shield itself behind being "just a joke" and can still be actively harmful to the minorities they target.
Everything should be fair game for jokes. Mass shootings and pedos are arguably more serious issues and nobody cares about those. The people who can't recognize a joke are like the people who look at GTA and only see a massacre
What kind of decent joke could a comedian tell that would encourage a person to shoot up a school or be a pedo? Jokes about marginalized groups help encourage othering of that group and normalizes bigotry. I'm not saying a person can't joke about anything they want, but in a political climate where people are making historic pushes to persecute trans people I think it is a pretty massive dick move to fan the flames.
And you have no basis for thinking this. You didn't respond to half my comment so I'm going to assume you're aware that making a joke where the punchline "trans women are fucking disgusting and are privileged in society and are a threat to children" can absolutely promote and encourage a group of people to legitimately believe that and you just don't care.