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I'm not removing it. Not because the result of the poll is like that, but because I'm tired of being called a child abuser by people. Even if they are right or wrong. My apologies to those who think otherwise.
As you know, we've had a lot of drama about age in last days. And I'm so sorry to open a new one. I hope I don't use the wrong word this time :)
You can see current rules below, which suggested by @throwawayforratings@lemmynsfw.com in here.
- 1: No sexual depictions of real people under the age of 18. Period.
- 2: No sexual artwork of fictional characters who are canonically under the age of 18. (eg, Sailor Moon, Rei Ayanami, Lisa Simpson, etc.) This includes “aged up” versions of such characters.
- 3: No sexual artwork of fictional characters who unambiguously appear under the age of 18, regardless of canonical age. This includes, but is not limited to, “3,000 year old dragon loli” type characters. The basis for this will be behavior and physical appearance. Admin/mod’s decision is final.
- 4: Sexual artwork of fictional characters with no canonical age and ambiguously youthful appearance is allowed, at admin/mod’s discretion.
The problem is rule 2. In the current hentai communities, if we look at canonical age, it's around 30% underage. However, looking at the images, not all of these contents appear as underage. Check out some of the reports:
- https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/f421e2c6-12d3-4c88-b834-01a0a1bcd2d1.jpeg
- https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/967e8735-0996-4712-880f-799be80b7cd9.jpeg
- https://iili.io/H6Bp9v2.md.png
- https://iili.io/HPhp97n.jpg
- https://iili.io/H6CJPWP.png
These characters are all canonically underage, but only last one (and maybe 3th) looks underage. This makes moderation difficult. Anyway, I wanted to ask everyone because I'm very indecisive about this. IDK how Reddit handled these.
Do you think we should remove the 2nd rule and examine it under the 3rd rule or should the rule remain?
https://strawpoll.com/ajnEOA2PBZW
Also we're looking for an admin
We are looking for someone who is especially knowledgeable about hentai, who can take care of this business regardless of the outcome of the decision. I sent an offer to @securitas@lemmynsfw.com regarding this. Looking for another admin too.
Keep the rules. Anything with minors in anyway is gross.
What if the only way to know that they're minors (as in: they don't look like it) is to know who the character is? And what if you don't know who the character is?
(Assuming people are operating in good faith here)
Then your post will be removed and you learn from experience.
So that would effectively mean that if a moderator doesn't recognize a character that's clearly drawn to be of legal age, they should just delete it.
I fail to see the logic in that.
I am not sure where you are failing to see the logic in erring on the side of "not having child porn" and frankly that's kinda disturbing
FWIW, I don't care about these kinds of drawings either, I have no stake in this.
I guess my issue is that if a drawn, fictional character looks like an adult, I don't classify it as child porn. If you think it is, that's absolutely fine, I just want to rule out we're misunderstanding each other.
By your logic reddit is hosting a lot of "childporn" right now. Any problem with that? Have you reported them to the authorities? Why not?
I don't know what's on hentai subs because I never subscribed to any. And there was no option like the "local" here.
Yes. I do in fact have a problem with that. I'm positive reddit has received reports but they have much more money to put towards a legal team than any instance owner here on the threadiverse could have