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Where I live they recently bought a bunch of electric and hybrid public buses.
Hope they simply bought trolley buses and didn't waste money on battery buses
It's such a waste to put batteries in inner city buses
Yeah, and the cables would install themselves automatically.
That's better than the buses breaking down.
https://youtu.be/B78-FgNqdc8?si=1dMORMc1EYhA6abL
Sorry but youtube experts and their google research are not a reliable source of information for me. It's entertaining but it's the last thing I would base city planning on.
Lol
" i refuse to engage with content that says i am wrong"
So some dude on the Internet says I'm wrong. Guess what? I'm also a dude on the Internet and I say he's wrong. Checkers!
Yeah but this dude has this thing called common sense, try acquiring that first.
Maybe then you can think about the implications of BE buses more than " cables need to be installed therefore Be is better than trolley"
You might think about stuff like extra weight extra purchase cost, decreased capacity, more expensive road maintenance cost, less uptime due to charging, less efficiency due to weight, decreased range in cold or hot when AC is needed that makes everything worse
Show me a town that recently switched to trolleys and done a cost/benefit analysis after couple of years that confirms they saved money and I will absolutely agree with you.
Why don't you show me a town that switched from trolleys to BeBs and saved money ?
I don't have data, you don't have data. All we know is that lots of cities choose electric/hybrid buses while no cities choose trolleys. If you think it's because everyone working in the public transport departments is stupid and only some youtuber is super smart that's fine. I'm sceptical.
Literally the first city I checked is switching gas powered buses to trolleys and new bus purchases are going down to 0 and Brno unlike many cities has an excellent public transport system
https://www.idnes.cz/brno/zpravy/dopravni-podnik-brno-financni-plan-uspory-zvysene-naklady-rozpocet.A221213_696580_brno-zpravy_azu
You checked one city at random and they were switching to trolleys? Amazing. Anyway, good for them. Let's hope it will work and in a couples of years we'll have some hard data to base policy on.
Not at random, I lived there for 9 years, so it's a city close to my heart.
Trolley buses are a weird niche. They require permanent overhead cable infrastructure like trams do but don't have the other benefits of trams - higher capacity, greater speed, better ride and no tyre pollution. I figure if you're going to install a trolley bus route you probably might as well install rails at the same time and get the benefits of trams. (Aka streetcars for the North Americans out there)
The City of London did assessments on trolley buses and found that the added capacity of trams made them the better choice pretty much anywhere trolley buses were proposed, despite the slightly higher install cost.