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The "Shoemaker's Children" Problem (personaljournal.ca)
submitted 2 years ago by ttmrichter@lemmy.ml to c/programming@lemmy.ml
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Software has a problem.

OK, it has many problems. I've already highlighted one of them. But this is another important one.

The problem is that software—all software, with no exceptions—sucks. The reason for this is multifaceted and we could spend years and years arguing about who has the larger list of reasons, but in the end it boils down to the proverbial shoemaker's children: Our development tools are the worst of the worst in software.

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[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The tools used in forging steel tools are made by forged steel. There are different skill sets even in foundry-oriented metalwork.

I know this goes against the grain of software developer ego, but there are actually very different skills involved in various types of software, and someone who can churn out a CRUD-backed web page at the push of a button (often almost literally) is not going to be making an optimizing compiler anytime soon, while the compiler writer may look at the utter screwed-up state of web programming and recoil in horror, not knowing where, even, to begin.

It's great for the ego to say "it's all software, so because I can write a app, obviously I can write an operating system too". But it isn't true.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

While what you are saying is true, I disagree because forging steel is not performed for the sole purpose of forging steel. Forged steel, while being the end product of some factories, it is never meant to stay like that, but to be further processed. At least cut in sheet and soldered somewhere. And honestly making a sheet of steel is much simpler than making a wrench. And the order of complexity magnitude between making a sheet of steel and a wrench is certainly not the same as making a compiler and building a website with Go/Node/PHP or anything.