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I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Even if you must own a smart TV (because it's impossible to buy a large-ish TV anymore that isn't), I see no reason to actually connect it to any network. But! I notice recent models will bitch at you on every single power on if you leave them disconnected. So you're not even safe from being annoyed then.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some people get big computer monitors instead of a TV, because of shit like this.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I did a projector. Pretty close in price and I have a very modest, but serviceable 135" screen and no ads.

[–] mvilain@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I found out a TV required internet access to function, I'd return it to wherever I bought it next day.

Luckily I have a old-ish flatscreen that doesn't require internet but does have a netflix and other channels I can setup if I want. The Netflix client is so old it won't connect to their servers any more. That's OK. My Roku still works.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have yet to see one that won't eventually let you use it as a dumb display after you dismiss one (or more) nags first. But I'm sure that's coming eventually. The worst offender I found yet is the "cheap" Black Friday sale Amazon Fire TV my boss got to use as a security monitor in one of our satellite locations. That fucking thing won't even show a picture until you dismiss its network nag, and then its sign-in-with-Amazon nag. At least I found you can disable the Amazon account nag in the options. The network connection one you can't.

We've just resolved never to turn it off. You can't dismiss the nag screen with the bezel buttons, either. You have to use the remote, so that's now permanently double-stick taped to the desk the TV is on.

Next time he'll just buy a fucking computer monitor like I told him to.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, that's why I've come to just pay the premium for professional displays instead of consumer TVs.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

How much more is it?

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

That's a great way to go. There are also still some budget options (Sceptre comes to mind) that don't have any smart features in some models. My buddy just picked one up.

It's an absolutely terrible TV, but for his use case it's perfect. He's using it as a karaoke monitor for parties at his house. It's mounted in a covered patio and is dumb as hell.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Wonder how much an 83" OLED would cost me for a premium professional display.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious?

My LG you had to scroll down (with no scroll indicator) below the screen to find the hidden option to not connect it to the internet on set up.

If I the TV nagged me every start up I’d get rid of it.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least the LG TVs don't try to pull any shit like OP posted about. At least mine hasn't.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Mine hadn't, built it's a few years old and the enshittification has only increased each year.

[–] Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

This article is a year old, but it's still possible to buy dumb tvs.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Thankfully mine (about two yrs old now) only whined for the first couple weeks then gave up on me.

Now the only issue I have is the time it takes for android to boot. It's like having to wait for your tv to warm up all over again except without the high pitched noise old tv sets had.

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think newish tvs offer advanced image quality features like HDR and Dolby Vision through their own apps rather than through web browser; if you don’t have a new generation console in your house and wanna enjoy your new TV full capabilities you will need to connect the damn thing to the internet

[–] PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what? I'm thinking about getting the LG C2/3, and wasn't going to connect it to the internet.

Guess I'll have to get myself a PiHole and figure out how to block tracking.

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have an LG C3 and that thing is amazing; the issue with HDR/Dolby Vision/etc is not because LG, but rather that you need a system that has an app that supports those capabilities, like if you have a subscription to Apple TV and don’t wanna connect your TV to the internet you need an Nvidia Shield/Apple TV/PS5/Xbox series X because just a HTPC won't do it because the web browsing app doesn't offers HDR and the Apple TV Windows app is trash

[–] PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, so I won't lose any HDR/other image settings with a PS5 and Google TV?

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I have mine connected so I can control it from Home Assistant. It's blocked from WAN though.