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Instances are not shadow banning, they all listed in instance list page.
I didn’t get the mod drama thing. I guess this guy mixing instance admins with community mods.
Also, I don't think there is that much blocking between instances except Beehaw, since they want to create a refined user base.
Edit: what I was telling here is only applies to Lemmy. Looks like things are different for Mastodon side. So this comment may have a realistic view.
I don't really expect 4channers to have reasonable opinions on moderation, the whole reason it's the way it is is because of lax moderation
4chan has lax moderation? I guess you've never seen their rules then and the bans their mods give
Whole reason 8chan is a thing is because they think 4chan has too much moderation
Nice ad hominem
I don't think you know what an ad hominem is.
Oh no
I can barely ad single digit numbers, much less hominem.
Pretty sure the only time I've heard someone say hominem is Eminem in the fast section of Rap God
On Lemmy, it's shown. On Mastodon, instances are given the ability to hide their blocked instances which IMO hinders people's ability to join. A lot of the drama on the fediverse with regards to blocking is from Mastodon and similar instances.
People claim the instance you join doesn't matter because "everything is federated!" but it kind of does. It strongly affects the people who will see your posts and even who you can follow, and if you don't know what an instance is blocking it creates an air of uncertainty. I've seen instances get blocked for stupid at best and downright malicious at worst reasons, so the 4chan post isn't inherently wrong.
The largest instances all block many other instances and they are all in favor of federating with Meta as well.
To be fair, a lot of the blocking are of instances that are causing lots of moderation problems, since they post things that upset many users.
Most users actually prefer a walled garden experience so they don't have to see things that upsets them. As long as they feel the walled garden has sensible rules.
I don’t think that applies to Lemmy. lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, lemm.ee, lemmy.ml and other big instances are all federated with each other.
I really can’t talk about Mastodon or Kbin though.
Ya hopefully that was an insanely swreping bit just now. I want NOTHING to do with fucking Meta
You don't have to fuck Meta, but unfortunately Meta will still fuck you.
This is getting way to meta for me to understand ;)
that’s… that’s illegal?
I've gotten used to just accessing Lemmy through the Eternity app.
How would I look at the graph showing instances and which ones are connected to each other?
This site lists the ones that are and aren't federated with Threads. I don't know of a complete list of all the instances and all their federations, though.
It kinds of works like shadow banning because defederation means one instance doesn't get updates from the defeded one... but the defeded one can still be federated with the one that defeded them, so users on that can still see and comment on posts, but they aren't displayed to people using the defeded instance. So they're just posting into the void. But people on their instance and I guess other instances can still see them of course.