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[–] query@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Lucky they made DS9 before TNG had even finished, then.

We didn't really get more of the TNG side of things with the TNG movies. Then they moved on to JJA Star Trek, which wasn't much of anything, not dark, not utopian, just references.

While Discovery was in part based around rescuing an ultra-fascist from another universe.

It took bringing back Picard himself to approach doing what they once did decades ago. And I guess not let the actor have too much say over the script, if that's what messed up the movies.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

While Discovery was in part based around rescuing an ultra-fscist from another universe

You mean part of a single episode. Saving her was never planned in the first place and was even a surprise to the character in the moment. when she comes back she actively fucks everything up and is constantly at odds with everyone. So no part of it was based around her at all. Unless you're talking about the season 3 two partner in which case it's two episodes but that's still very distinctly not the entire show. It's also AGGRESSIVELY Star Trek to help others you have differences with. Starfleet goes out of its way to do that constantly in TNG even if it might put them at risk too.

Not to mention the fact you say after TNG that the older style was dead as if Voyager doesn't exist. Then you mention Picard bringing back the old style which is an utter lie. Picard was willing to execute a prisoner. The first two seasons are nothing remotely like TNG and the third season is an even further detraction. Doesn't mean it's bad but it is aggressively different.

Gettin real tired of y'all just blatantly lying because you don't like a thing and wanna slander it.

[–] query@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You mean part of a single episode.

No. They kept her around like she wasn't someone who should be imprisoned for life, far removed from any position where she could manipulate others.

If they wanted to help others, there was a universe full of people more deserving. Two, even.

Not to mention the fact you say after TNG that the older style was dead as if Voyager doesn’t exist.

Yep.