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Ministry of Justice plan to destroy historical wills is ‘insane’, say experts (www.theguardian.com)

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“Sheer vandalism” and “insane”. This is how leading historians on Monday described government plans to destroy millions of historical wills to save on storage costs.

The Ministry of Justice is consulting on digitising and then throwing away about 100m paper originals of the last wills and testaments of British people dating back more than 150 years in an effort to save £4.5m a year.

But Tom Holland, the classical and medieval historian and co-host of The Rest is History podcast, said the proposal to empty shelves at the Birmingham archive was “obviously insane”. Sir Richard Evans, historian of modern Germany and modern Europe, said “to destroy the original documents is just sheer vandalism in the name of bureaucratic efficiency”.

Ministers believe digitsiation will speed up access to the papers, but the proposal has provoked a backlash among historians and archivists who took to X, formerly Twitter, to decry it as “bananas” and “a seriously bad idea”.

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[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but making sure these digital copies are well preserved would probably cost more than keeping the originals.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well according to the estimates given in the article the opposite is true and digitisation would save 4.5m£ p.a. Archival of paper has its own costs after all. You need climate controlled environments, regular review of the documents to make sure they aren't damaged by organics or anything, and physical storage space.

So not only is this argument probably wrong, engaging with it also gives credence the people suggesting that saving a paltry 4.5 million £ a year (which is about 0.06 £ per capita) is worth the downsides of this move, which it isn't according to all the experts cited in the article. The focus should be on the lost information, not on the costs.

Hell, at those costs you could just store them both physically and digitally without much difference in the overall budget (except for the initial digitisation of the physical documents). Digital storage is very cheap even with redundancies, and integrity checking can be automated.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Somehow I read it completely wrong, as they are saying the cost would be 4.5m and that sounded too cheap, this is why I was skeptical about their costs estimations. But yeah, I agree with you in every point.