News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
Not all zionists are religious, like at all.
It takes like 10 minutes of googling to see Zionism is an umbrella term for multiple different schools of thoughts. People are turning it into some slur when at its core it’s the belief that Jews have a right to a state. Keep in mind that Jews are both a race and a religion.
Race is a construct. We are all the same species.
Yes but so is Money, the significance of a social construct comes from how much society as a whole puts stock in the ideas. Unfortunately race is very relevant in today's world as ethnicity and perceived race is a big factor in how issues are discussed and acted on.
I may be overreacting a bit, but your comment sounds a lot like the colorblind/all lives matter rethoric to me in this context, so I want to emphasize it's significance to this discussion.
Well it's more of a state in a specific place and that maybe everyone should go there.
Several different locations were considered at first. I think the levant was chosen because it renders the “go back where you came from” argument moot since they’d be living in the area they originated from.
Bullcrap. Zionism originated as an antisemitic Christian idea that was specifically based on the premise that Jewish people "don't belong" in (so-called) "western civilization" and should return "where they came from" - ie, Palestine.
White supremacist much? Do you want to tell me now that Ethiopian Jewish people and Ashkenazi are the same "race"?
Uh no, Zionism is not a Christian idea. It’s been an idea long before Christianity was even around. I’m flabbergasted that you called me a white supremacist for stating a fact. Ethiopian and Ashkenazi Jews could very well share DNA linking them back to the original Jewish diaspora.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2017/03/21/beta-israel-reconsidered-defending-israelite-ancestry-ethiopian-jews/
“As the BBC reports, the study suggests that “Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.” Professor Chris Tyler-Smith, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, told the BBC: “By analyzing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba.” Note that the study does not contradict the 2007 work by Entine or other historical evidence. The results suggest that Israelites-Jews entered the region 3,000 years ago, but they were not necessarily consolidated as a group until about 1,500 years ago. Also, note the study does not necessarily confirm the biblical story of affair between Queen Sheba of ancient Ethiopia and king Solomon of ancient Israel.”
Here’s another
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/
“By principal component analysis, it was observed that the Jewish populations of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East formed a tight cluster that distinguished them from their non-Jewish neighbors (Fig. 1). Within this central cluster, each of these Jewish populations formed its own subcluster, in addition to the more remote localization of members of some Diaspora communities. The observation of a major central tight cluster was supported by statistical metrics for genetic distances (Fst, allelic sharing distances).”
With all this said, even if Ethiopian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are not actually genetically related, they still get targeted the same whether they practice Judaism or not.
Oh, look... a white supremacist is "flabbergasted" that someone pointed out their white supremacism.
Yawn.
Nope. Christian zionism predates Jewish zionism by about two decades. It's such non-controversial history you'll even find it on wikipedia, Clyde.
I'm genetically related to every other human being on the planet, genius - does that make me every "race" according to people like you who buy into the tenets of "race science"?
I have literally no idea how Jewish communities sharing specific DNA linking them to the levant has anything to do with white supremacy, or how that makes me a white supremacist. Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE. Are all scientists that study genetics racist? Where are you getting this from and why are you so angry about it?
No, it didn’t. Zionism started in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
This has happened before. One specific movement started then, but the idea is very old https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Zion
And that’s not “Zionism.” You could say it was a precursor, but Zionism is distinct thing.
This is the very first line in the book “Der Judenstaat” by Theodor Herzl, considered to be the father of modern Zionism starting with this book. “The idea which I have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the restoration of the Jewish State.” Herzl simply renewed the idea in modern times, so many websites will list him as the start. However, a little digging into Jewish history and you will find Zionism is a very old idea.
The idea is old but the specific movement and the execution of it is very young.
Zionists are primarily characterised by "the end justify the means" which mostly means they will kill and expell anyone they don't like.
Jews however want their promised land but not specifically by violent means.
After spending some time reading the history of Zionism, I find your characterization of them dishonest. There’s tons of early Zionists that preached pacifism and coexistence. Here’s one of many examples https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._D._Gordon
Only a white supremacist classifies people into "races" based on arbitrary bullcrap like "sharing specific DNA." Methinks you don't seem to know how white supremacism works - despite the fact that you see the world through it's lens. It's a pretty common symptom amongst sufferers of the particular disease we call "westernism."
No it didn't, Clyde. Again... it’s such non-controversial history you’ll even find it on wikipedia.
Race is the wrong word in the modern American context. Jews aren't a race in the sense of black vs white.
Jews are, however, an ethnicity - much like how you can be ethnically Navaho or ethnically Basque. It's a matter of being part of a community of people with a shared culture and ancestry. And yes, beta Israel and Ashkenazim are both ethnically Jewish.
That's really weird, Clyde... considering that it's the only understanding of "race" we have here in our fundamentally white supremacist society.
Do tell... what does the KKK and the neonazis think of your (supposedly) "nuanced" take on pseudo-scientific "race science?"
Race used to be commonly used as a synonym of ethnicity - it isn't rare to see references to the German race, the Celtic race, Greek race, etc.
Oh... so dividing people into "races" using the most arbitrary characteristics is a recent thing?
You don't say.
If westernism is a disease which region is the cure professor Tank
So not only don't you understand your own diseased ideology... you also completely miss the point of all the others.
No, Clyde... desperately hurling the term "tankie" at others does not distract from your white supreamcism.
Yes my horrible ideology of citing a peer reviewed science article published by the national library of medicine lmao. Science is a capitalist and imperialist conspiracy!!1!1
Are you trying to act like an asshole? Like.. cause you are.