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Linux is all good if you only play singleplayer games. My friends started playing the finals yesterday and it doesn't run on linux because of EAC. Windows can run all my games without any proton switching and all the nvidia features like ray reconstruction and pathtracing with frame generation just works (alan wake 2 looks so good).

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have to agree with @semperverus - I find this post as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That's not "dumb" tho, that's how you don't end up with an echochamber. Windows communities should discuss the shortcomings of windows, but also linux communities should accept and/or help resolve issues with linux. If the point of this community is to just praise linux and say nothing bad about it then what's even the point of it, it's just going to give a false impression to anyone thinking of switching over.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

linux communities should accept and/or help resolve issues with linux

This isn't an issue we, or anyone in the Linux community can resolve, and OP doesn't even ask for help with their issue. They just wanted to inform us that "Linux bad, Windows better".

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OP even said that Linux is all good if you play single-player games.

It is you who chose to interpret the post as "Linux bad, Windows better".

Do you think OP would have tried Linux in the first place if they genuinely thought that?

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Linux may be fine if you only do X, but..." is one of the most used bait post templates.

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It is true, i mean if you are into popular online first person shooters on twitch linux is not the best choice. And it doesn't help when you come back say, those games are not worth playing.

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But this is not a problem with Linux, really. There are many multiplayer and using some king of anti-cheat system games that work perfectly fine. The developer of this one simply didn't care (or didn't want for whatever reason) for the game to run on Linux in any form, so it's not working. Sometimes you get lucky and Wine can run a game like this but this is not the real solution. If developer wants it to run on Mac, they create a Mac build, they want it to run on older Windows, they probably have to prepare separate build for older Windows, they want it to run on consoles, they create builds for the consoles they want it to run. Linux/Proton/Wine build seems to be missing

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

From your perspective it is not a Linux problem. From the perspective of the user who sees all those "Linux is as good for gaming as windows nowadays!" posts and expects his OS to just work, it is a Linux issue that would be resolved by not using Linux.

Besides, I know nobody gives a shit what we write here in the fediverse but generally speaking you get the change to happen by making enough noise about it. If nobody talks that the dev x doesn't support the linux build, whether its because of EAC or something else, then nothing will ever change about it so stifling these discussions is not good for anyone.

OP should be complaining to the game dev then, not trolling the Linux community about it.

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

If I buy a thing and it has a different plug, the problem is not my outlets, but producer/seller

Oh, I am definitely not against shaming a developer that does that. We (Linux gaming community) have been complaining about this long before Valve even had a native Linux client. But as long as developers don't pay attention if the game will run on Linux (native or Wine), there isn't really much Linux community could do about

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is technically no such thing as a "Proton/Wine build".

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure Steam knows what client it uses. Which means there could be. And having a build that works with a defined version of Wine or Proton would be such a build

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And having a build that works with a defined version of Wine or Proton would be such a build

That would be a stupid approach though, Proton gets improvements and bug fixes all the time. They'd be missing out if they locked their game to one particular version. As long as they did the bare minimum & aren't actively hampering support on purpose like Epic Games does, then the game will work and any bugs will be patched by Valve and the community.

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, it would be stupid approach. But that is the minimal viable approach to having a "Wine/Proton build"

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux

Which is exactly what is happening on Windows-related posts all over Lemmy.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Then please downvote them. Fanboyism is stupid regardless of what you're shilling for.

I only post if I think it's directly relevant and constructive. Like noting Steam Deck compat for a game, or if someone asks about Linux on something I happen to be browsing. Then again, Linux isn't new or fresh to me, it's just the thing I've been using for 15 or so years, so I suppose I'm less excited about it than someone who just found it in the past year or something.