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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden has continued all the same policies and has also dragged the world into a proxy war against Russia while continuing to escalate tensions with China. Biden is a lunatic whose actions continue to bring the world closer to a world war.

[–] SylviaTheDragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure it was literally Russia who started that war.

Edit: Sorry, meant to say 'special operation'. This is how states operate now. It fucking sucks. It all fucking sucks. Everyone fucking suck. Throwing shit at each other is no way it's going to stop. People need to pull their heads out of their ass as point fingers at the people who actually put this shit together. The entire world economy is tired to oil and guns. As long as oil and guns reign supreme, so will war.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even Ukrainians are now saying that it was the west that stopped negotiations last March https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms

Meanwhile, Stoltenberg finally admitted that the reason the war started was because of NATO expansion https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm#:~:text=The%20background%20was%20that%20President,condition%20for%20not%20invade%20Ukraine

Meanwhile, people who put this all together are the ones running the empire, and as long as Americans keep voting for the lesser evil nothing's going to change.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, Stoltenberg finally admitted that the reason the war started was because of NATO expansion

Your link does not support that. It literally states that Putin wanted to completely veto NATO expansion, which he has no right to do. In retaliation for not caving to his absurd demands, he declared war on Ukraine. All of this are actions by Putin and could only have been prevented by Putin. He started the war, nobody else.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stopping NATO expansion would be an absurd demand if Russia did not have the power to stop do so by force which is what it's now doing. Russia gave NATO a choice of either stopping expansion to its borders, or resolving the situation by force. NATO chose to resolve the situation by force. The whole narrative that Putin started the war and nobody else is beyond infantile because it just ignores all the history and geopolitical context pretending as if this was some random event that happened out of the blue and for no logical reason.

NATO has maintained a policy of might makes right since the fall of USSR, it has invaded and razed numerous countries over the past few decades, and now it's run into a country that will no longer tolerate an aggressive military alliance on its borders.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

NATO chose to resolve the situation by force.

NATO did not fire a single shot during this war. Russia was the one who started all the shooting. Not to mention that Ukraine is a sovereign nation that gets to choose if it wishes to associate with NATO. Russia decided to use force to prevent Ukraine from doing that.

There is no history or geopolitical context here that justifies Putins invasion of Ukraine. To claim anything else is an endorsement of Putins flavour of fascism, where he is literally saying that Russian might makes right. It's insane how deluded you are to literally draw the opposite conclusion from facts that do not support your arguments at all.