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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Floridians had rights, until suddenly they didn't.

Rights aren't so important when they can easily taken away.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rights aren't important to you at all. As long as Democrats get to keep their stupid procedural excuse for inaction, everything else is secondary.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And yet they are taking action where they can, like in Ohio, Kansas, etc.

You are willing to risk everything for short term again, most of us aren't.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Great. Could have codified Roe, but you're happy with Texas' law as long as your precious Jim Crow filibuster keeps progress from ever happening on the national level.

Your real nightmare scenario isn't Florida's abortion laws. It's Washington's minimum wage, universal vote by mail, and legal cannabis.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Codified Roe = short term gain. The only way to codify it is to plant the seeds for its destruction. Along with the destruction of other laws you should care about.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Codified Roe = short term gain.

You prefer no gain at all ever. Congratulations on getting it.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I prefer incremental gains that are not easily reversed. Like the ACA and the latest climate change legislation.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You like the filibuster because you like your losses to be untempered by gains.

You're trying to coast on the ACA from 15 years ago, when the only thing you liked about it was how the filibuster prevented the public option from happening.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like the filibuster because without it the ACA wouldn't have lasted 15 years.