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[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 169 points 11 months ago (63 children)

please stop with the "Just Leave." we can't all just leave and i tire of hearing it. what limitations and obligations keep you where you are?

and if you genuinely can Just Leave wherever you are, reflect for awhile on your privilege, then try to recognize how many people do not have that option for any number of reasons.

sometimes i think this sentiment is only a little less tone-deaf than "just have a baby."

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, hopefully you can get enough people to get over the hurdles you have to vote for actual change.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Have you seen the state of gerrymandering in Texas? They know their positions are unpopular abominations against democracy, so they’ve worked furtively to dismantle democracy so they can get away with this shit.

Yes, for the love of humanity, VOTE. But never believe that’s all you can or must do. We outnumber them, and they need to be reminded of that in more ways than one.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Gerrymandering doesn't explain why we reelected Greg "It could've been worse" Abbott.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

In Texas, "leaving" can be a 10-hour drive and we still border with plenty of states that highly restrict abortion.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The people who are saying leave, are the ones seeing you as the frog slowly boiling, but not realizing it until it's too late.

Of course it sucks. Of course you might have to build life anew, but a real life beats a kettle that's heating up.

All I'm saying it's not black and white, and many probably already left or are in the process.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Okay, and? That doesn't change a thing braxy said. What if you've been aware for years of the pot getting hotter and hotter and have had every desire to leave but don't have the ability to? Those that have left were in a position in which they had the means to do so. Those that want to but can't for any number of reasons (finances, family, health, etc. etc.) don't have much choice.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Some of us also want to cool down the pot instead. I'd rather swim in my pot than someone else's.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

My take is that there's nothing wrong in saying leave, or people leaving. But I also agreed that it's not possible for everyone, or not all want to - until perhaps something is too late.

I don't understand why the people who can't/won't/don't want to take offense from it, when it's a viable option for many.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

What about the child rape victims who have zero agency? What about the disabled who are completely reliant on others? What about people who have court orders barring them from leaving for whatever reason? What about those for whom leaving would mean abandoning their children to an abusive spouse who has custody?

I could name reasons that’s not feasible for many, many people, but the bottom line is that may work for privileged people, but our responsibility is to care for all of us, and saying ‘sucks to be you’ is not a solution any of us should accept.

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