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Pretty much everyone I see is on lemmy.ml. Why aren't people moving to other instances? I see thisproblems on Matrix too.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think there is a distinction. It's not a 'nazi instance', it's an instance with a couple of nazis using it and tolerated by it. The site ideology is best characterized as "US Libertarian", the point being that the admin isn't a Nazi, and their "pro-[personal] freedom" beliefs don't conflict with the software project and its goal, even if they conflict with me. They can constructively collaborate for mutual benefit. We both hate "big tech" and want an alternative.

A 'Nazi instance' and/or a 'pedophile instance' is a ~~grayer area~~ cut off, as their goals are more antagonistic and promoting harm by nature rather than incidentally. That's where I see the benefits of collaboration less worth it and would have no issue rejecting them. And I recall the admins here saying something a little similar, that fascist instances wouldn't be advertized there.

It isn't a comfortable decision, but I am able to put aside ideals to work against a massive common enemy. When I read "workers of the world, unite", I realize it didn't say "workers who I like, unite". If a liberal or a US libertarian wants to join an environmental protest or action, good. If collaboration is a pragmatically effective way towards improving conditions and reaching goals, my idealism of purity isn't helpful. Small FOSS projects need all the help they can get against a multi-national capitalist-funded website worth multiple billion dollars.

[–] mekhos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A ‘Nazi instance’ and/or a ‘pedophile instance’ is a grayer area

WTF, at some point you have to stand up against shit that is way wrong, and those types of instances are waaaaaay past the gray area.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not saying they aren't revolting or abhorrent or wrong. Of course they are. What I meant (and admittedly poorly worded) was that's where I draw the boundary of where their beliefs will make me refuse to cooperate for mutual benefit.

[–] mekhos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, thanks for clarifying.

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you tolerate nazis, your a nazi supporter in my book

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They tolerate communists too, are they a communist supporter in your book?

I fucking hope they are, but toleration of nazis in any space whatsoever is completely unacceptable.

also take a look at my user, I am very opposed to nazis and you can guess my opinion of communism