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[Mortgage Is 'Just A Fancy Bullsh*t Word For Paying Rent For 30 Years To The Bank,' Says Real Estate Billionaire Grant Cardone — Here's Why Renting Could Be A Better Financial Move

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[–] andrefsp@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Oh, I have something to say about this.

About 7 or 8 years ago I bought my house. I had friends of mine showing me articles that basically had the same "renting is better than buying" message bullshit.

You don't really need much brain power to understand that is absurd. Paying loads amounts of money for something that will never be yours is obviously stupid in the long term.

The thing that made me very upset at the time is that my friends drunk the cool aid of these very same article and didn't buy a property when they had the chance... Now, 8 years after, they are all struggling to buy properties except now is a lot more expensive.

The house you live in should be YOURS and no-one else.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Bought around 7 years ago as well, got told the same things. I said I was taking a bit of a cost hit now to lower my costs in the long term because my mortgage payments will never go up the way my rent payments were.

Fuck me I had no idea things would get this bad, and boy am I glad I got into a home when I did. It really shouldn't cost that much to rent, this shit is absurd.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

I agree that it's better to own for 95% of the cases, but some of these people talking about renting being best might have been through the '08 crash. With China having their own financial crisis, we could be in a bubble because they invested a lot in US real estate. If your underwater in your mortgage (your mortgage is higher than it's worth), you do feel like you're drowning.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, but there is no guarantee that anything stays the same. I also hope people who are buying for the first time understand the different types of loans and they should 99% of the time want a fixed rate.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In a very specific scenario, with a very large amount of running the numbers, as a high income person with low personal expenses and a very good investment advisor, I could see how in certain situations/locations where mortgage rates are much higher than rental rates, that you get better fiscal results investing than paying that mortgage. That was a very rare situation 7 years ago, even more rare now. Where I lived ten years ago, I could not possibly afford the mortgage but I could the rent. These days there the situation has reversed and they're both sky high regardless.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You don't really need much brain power

Yes, yes. You're very smart and special...

You're not exactly wrong, but we should all be focused on the extremely wealthy and giant property companies that caused and are profiting off the housing crisis, yet people like you would rather jack yourselves off at your amazing foresight and laugh at anyone struggling. Kind of a Boomer response, no? Try to learn some empathy...

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Well, the thing is you never really own it. Don't pay your property taxes and insurance, see what happens.

Buying makes sense if you're going to leave that property to children or relatives.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, the thing is you never really own it. Don’t pay your property taxes and insurance, see what happens.

What is the point of this comment? As long as you live in society you will be paying taxes. Death and taxes are the two global absolutes, and an argument could be made that death may be ultimately beatable.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I'm not anti-tax. I'm just stating the fact that in the United States, and many other countries, you never actually "own" your residence.