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Lemmy

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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think conspiracy theorists and nazis should feel persecuted.

I don't think the answer is to give them a platform as if their ideas are somehow valid or worth discussing. To treat those ideas as equal to others is to elevate them.

[–] tux@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

We have to be intolerant of intolerance. The paradox of tolerance is a great read.

[–] guyman@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fine, but understand you don't speak for everyone. That's why individually blocking users and instances is the right move. Falling down the path of dictating what others get to see is tyranny. Users should have the option to block entire instances as well.

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indivually blocking users, communities, and instances still allows those communities to grow. Saying, "if bigotry bothers you just don't look at it," does nothing to get to the root of the issue. The problem is not just that some people don't want to see bigots. The problem is that we are allowing for a place that nurters the growth of bigots.

[–] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The problem is not just that some people don't want to see bigots. The problem is that we are allowing for a place that nurters the growth of bigots.

Ex-fuckin'-actly.