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r/The_Donald now on Lemmy (edit: not anymore) (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Tsinc@feddit.de to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess it does put pressure on instance admins to remove the offending community from their instance. I am just not sure if we want to cross that line into penalizing everybody on an instance for simply being near a bad community though. I also think doing this kind of proactive censorship also forces these people into deeper echo chambers as they get more and more isolated.

[–] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess it does put pressure on instance admins to remove the offending community from their instance.

Yup. And that's the point. Clean up your shit, or get cut off.

I am just not sure if we want to cross that line into penalizing everybody on an instance for simply being near a bad community though.

Yes, we do. We need to skip gayly over that line with laughter and mirth. It needs to be common decency to stamp that shit out at the roots. If a nazi starts showing up at parties, do NOT stay quiet about it. That's how these hate groups worm their way in. Acceptance through ambivalence is absolutely a thing and they bank on it every time. "Oh, it's just a nazi. Ignore him." NO. Shout that fucker out of your community. Don't let them get comfortable. Let them know that their shit will NOT be tolerated.

I also think doing this kind of proactive censorship also forces these people into deeper echo chambers as they get more and more isolated.

Good. Keeps them isolated and out of vulnerable youths ears. Let them echo til their little hearts explode. They aren't welcome in decent society.

#MakeBigotryTabooAgain

[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

While I understand where the sentiment is coming from and hate Trump with the passion of a thousand suns, I have never once found that to be a way forward in real life. It leads to the kind of divisive politics that we see in America today, where people draw these hardcore lines that divide us and as a result we don't actually talk and figure out the root cause of our issues and instead seem content on screaming our side is better, our side is right.

Fascism is a disgusting thing, but there's a socioeconomic reason why people in the US are getting radicalized towards it and we aren't going to figure that out if we're all busy generalizing that group as disgusting people. Just my two cents.