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    [–] erev@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    He did hurt the mission. Plenty of kernel maintainers have left, and those were people who had been with the project for years. Losing experienced people to toxicity 1000% harms both the project and the product.

    [–] arc@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    In almost instances of Linus going off on one in public it is because maintainers weren't doing their jobs (to act as quality gatekeepers), or particular developers thinking they could steam roll road changes through if they kept submitting them, or not listening to what Linus was saying. I remember Linus used to ream out Hans Reiser a lot (the guy who was subsequently imprisoned for murdering his wife) because he constantly tried to get ReiserFS into the kernel despite serious issues Linus had with it.

    So generally when you see a rant, there is a history behind it and the rant itself is directed with a point. I also think it's self evident that the kernel has benefited from this "benevolent dictator" model. I'm sure some people have gotten all precious over their feelings being hurt. The rest raised their game and the result has been a code quality standard you'll probably never see anywhere else.

    [–] erev@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

    I can understand Linus getting frustrated at people who consistently push him (i e. Lennart) and I agree that there's a reason he's stayed at the helm of kernel maintenance and development all this time; however, that doesn't denigrate that this is an unacceptable way to treat someone which Linus himself acknowledges! If this were about ReiserFS going into the kernel, I would understand that. But a poorly made commit should not be met with this vitriol. I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences for poor work, but this is not it.