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[–] Linechecker@monero.town 8 points 9 months ago (19 children)

My realizations over the years:

Even if we make our cars less carbon-polluting by 25%, if we end up driving more, we could still end up polluting more.

Even if the western nations pollute less, developing nations will still pollute a lot more and will get us to tipping points anyway, albeit perhaps slightly slower.

Global warming effects are scary, but what's worse is global cooling and Ice Age. Once the ocean's balance is messed up by diluted salinity due to melted ice caps, who knows where this can go.

[–] darq@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even if the western nations pollute less, developing nations will still pollute a lot more and will get us to tipping points anyway, albeit perhaps slightly slower.

Ehh, it's worth noting that developing nations tend to pollute a lot less per capita. And as they develop they can transition to cleaner forms of energy, as they gain the economic ability to do so.

Pointing at developing nations is a convenient excuse for developed nations to avoid taking the actions we need to take.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We should be subsidizing renewables in developing countries so that they never have a reason to use fossil fuels in the first place.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

…but where will BP or Shell make their billions then?

Also: things like blue ammonia and blue hydrogen are far more polluting than oil even diesel fuel, yet those ghouls managed to greenwash it into appearing better.

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