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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 126 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Johnson then wrote that he worries that “our culture has fallen so far” since the United States’ founding in 1776. “I fear America may be beyond redemption,” he adds.

Since 1776? The year of the signing of the Declaration of Independence? I would think America got quite a bit better since then. I can think of just a few things that have made it better like:

  • 1787 Creation and signing of the US Constitution including that 1st Amendment including the words "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
  • 1865 13th Amendment abolished slavery in the United States
  • 1870 15th Amendment granting black men the right to vote.
  • 1920 19th Amendment to the Constitution granted women the right to vote and was ratified by the states

If Mike Johnson sees these things as a decline of the United States since the Declaration of Independence, he is saying he is seeing other besides white men gaining the ability to vote as a bad thing.

Republicans, your chosen Speaker of the House sees the Constitution of the United States as a negative thing!

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Back in the good ol' days where you were committed to a mental institution if found masterbating.

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you were a man. Women were committed over far less

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was just listening to the recent Behind the Bastards episodes on the Holy Roller cult from Oregon in 1900 and those motherfuckers were having women committed for refusing to wear a hat/cover their hair.

[–] Dethedrus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Another wild ride from the good reverend doctor. These sex cults are just weird yet still so predictable. Outside of the pet and potential toddler burning.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Pretty sure in the 1700's if they though you were cuckoo, they just strung you up from a tree

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Probably that, too.

The thing is about 20 years ago I toured a preserved colonial town in New England (I forget the name, it was in Virginia) and there was a book on display which was an inpatient log for a mental ward. And some of the entries' reason for admission was "masterbation".

[–] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By the way, New England is specifically the northeast states of Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island! Virginia was one of the English colonies but isn't part of New England.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Because they were only engl-ish

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's the name John Smith gave the area when he landed there that was later adopted by Pilgrims in Plymouth Colony who rode over on the Mayflower.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Cool. I thought "New England" meant the original thirteen colonies. But I'm from the Midwest, so what do I know? ;)

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Good question, not sure. I don't even remember what was nearby.

looks at some pictures

Could be, but then all English towns looked the same back then. I don't remember any buildings quite that big though.

[–] remus989@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

If it was Virginia, it was either Jamestown or Williamsburg most likely.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago

Bedlam Hospital opened in 1330.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Depends. If you were crazy and they thought you were harmful, then probably yes. They also had sanitariums.

It was also not densely populated. It was pretty easy to simply banish someone and they would just fuck off to be on their own.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago

Now we get people doctorbating unpunished.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

I mean tbf his ilk are really yearning for those articles of confederation days now that the tide on federation is beginning a grindingly slow turn against them

Something the sheer degree to which Millennials and Gen Z have embraced the cause of Palestine is probably putting into an extremely sharp focus as of late.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

If Mike Johnson sees these things as a decline of the United States since the Declaration of Independence, he is saying he is seeing other besides white men gaining the ability to vote as a bad thing.

Oh you know that's exactly what he's thinking!

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

He 100% believes that

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 11 months ago

When it got worse was when Nixon sold out the population in the 70ies.