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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Given the opportunity to outlaw "assault weapons" or eliminate hate, fear and greed, which do you think would reduce deaths the most? Saying this because Amish communities are generally armed to the teeth without any shootings.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would guess countries/societies with a (much) smaller wealth gap and more homogenous culture/values have less mass shootings. Perhaps in these societies there is less isolation between people, for better and worse?

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Amish are a non-violent cult. They have a lot of good values but they also have many toxic traditions. The difference is that they control people through psychological methods rather than with force.

They may be a non-violent group, but that doesn't excuse their behavior or mean that they are a model that all gun owners should strive for. Disgruntled members are more likely to abruptly leave altogether and carry lifelong trauma.

Amish = Cult
Isolation from mainstream society.
Strict rules and regulations controlling all aspects of everyday life.
Limited access to education
Unwavering devotion.
Shunning and excommunication practices.
Patriarchal leadership guided by god instead of charismatic leader

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, the Amish. Famously violent, and always running around with their AR-15s, high capacity magazines, just to really show off how modest, simple and peaceful their lives are.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Amish communities deal with those things in a different horrible way. Like excommunicating people who know nothing outside of the community.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Outlaw assault weapons. That's the easy one.