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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You Americans can do with a little less gun rights. Might actually be healthy.

Oh, that is after getting universal healthcare and better public transport first.

Maybe then America might become an actual developed country.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

At least I died free

---a shockingly large number of American schoolchildren

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am all for less guns rights as soon as the alt-right fascists are either mowed down or expelled. Not one second before though.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not how you fix your country. Your way of thinking will only produce more animosity and extreme ideologies.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

how do I meet in the middle with the people openly calling for me to be rounded up and executed by the government, then? what's the strategy for winning them over in the marketplace of ideas and why hasn't it worked yet?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't. The current generation and the generation under them cannot be "won over". What is required is 3 or 4 generations of reeducation.

And you can't suddenly change to this new education either. It needs to be done slowly, covertly, with a lot of patience and over a long time. You will have to be the bad guy who's secretly "brainwashing the children."

So long as no organised body has the balls to do this the only other option is for America to face the same kind of utter destruction 2 world wars have done to Europe so that the country can be rebuilt from the ground up. Literally.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Your first paragraph could be Alabama or Gaza....

[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's called "education". It takes a few decades to get some results though. Unfortunately nobody tried it yet.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it takes a few decades to get results

the armed mob chanting "kill f*ggots, kill all transgenders" is in the streets today, not a few decades from now.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I understand it's a sad reality, but those people can't reasonably be changed anymore. What we can do is work towards a better future while we keep looking at what can be done today.