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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you believe children act out for no reason?

If not, do you think it prudent to ascertain why someone is acting out?

If so, do you believe that the last decade of austerity impedes the ability to ascertain the reasons?

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you believe that kids never acted out before austerity? Or is it something that only happened because of austerity?

Do you think that schools don't try to engage with the kids and parents and get told to fuck off? That parents refuse to get their kids diagnosed for autism or ADHD? Refuse to have them medicated as directed by their doctor or sent to the correct school?

Do you think schools have gotten worse at behaviour management strategies or have they actually got access to far more approaches than before?

I actually think it's far easier to get issues such as autism and ADHD diagnosed as a child in the last ten years if you can actually get an appointment.

Pretending that it's down to austerity when the problems existed and made worse before due to the government of time not wanting to fall foul of ECHR and its own supreme court is just bad. Has it accelerated yes, but created by? Absolutely not.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you believe that kids never acted out before austerity? Or is it something that only happened because of austerity?

No. But I do believe that austerity has exacerbated the issue. If alcohol didn’t exist people would still assault other people, but with alcohol it happens more, as an example.

Do you think that schools don't try to engage with the kids and parents and get told to fuck off?

I think they do, but not to the level that is required due to austerity cuts to education budgets. Parents telling teachers to fuck off is not acceptable. In fact I know this happens as my mother is a TA on a rough estate where this happens. This can also be linked to austerity and a lack of faith in a system that fails so many. Google what happens when people lose faith and break the so called social contract.

That parents refuse to get their kids diagnosed for autism or ADHD? Refuse to have them medicated as directed by their doctor or sent to the correct school?

Many parents just don’t know or are themselves not educated enough to want to change. I was diagnosed with ADHD in later life and honestly the symptoms of left unchecked are hard to distinguish from a failure or lazy person.

Do you think schools have gotten worse at behaviour management strategies or have they actually got access to far more approaches than before?

Both. They have access to a wealth of information, but lack the resource of time to implement it.

I actually think it's far easier to get issues such as autism and ADHD diagnosed as a child in the last ten years if you can actually get an appointment.

I was in perpetual depression, addiction and losing job after job and was never marked as needed assistance. Only when I lucked into a good job with private healthcare was I able to seek help and sort my life out. Even now that I’ve left there to my dream career with no healthcare it’s taken a year to be referred to the NHS and that’s with a diagnosis.

Pretending that it's down to austerity when the problems existed and made worse before due to the government of time not wanting to fall foul of ECHR and its own supreme court is just bad. Has it accelerated yes, but created by? Absolutely not.

Nobody is trying to place the blame solely on austerity, but it’s been a large contributing factor.

I do appreciate you answering my questions with your own and not answering mine.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I answered them with my own, best way to deal with such obvious bad faith leading questions.

I cannot stand the pretence that the issue wasn't already here before austerity. I have mentioned in other responses already including the one you just replied to about the impact of austerity so you are getting mad at nothing here. For example, lack of specialist schools to send them to I have mentioned a few times now.

What caused the most harm was Cameron's hard on for sure start despite the good progress it was having with long term behaviour improvements. He fully intended to gut it before the 2008 crash so it would have happened with or without austerity.

Shit parents produce shit kids who become shit parents in the main. Sure start interrupted that process.