I’ve been trying to convince my parents that this is absofuckinglutely genocide. It has not gone well. They are convinced that Israel is simply defending themselves, and all the civilian casualties are just how war is.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You could make the comparison with Russia's actions towards Ukraine. Is it "just war" when Russia intentionally bombs children's schools and hospitals? Most countries are civilized enough to only target military targets during a war. It's also worth pointing out that modern missiles do not "accidentally" hit the wrong target, that's about as likely as shooting a gun and "accidentally" hitting your friend standing behind you.

[–] corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Most countries are civilized enough to only target military targets during a war.

all the humane wars out there

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I know... There's no escaping it, people are dumb.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some estimates say over one million Iraqis were killed during the American invasion and occupation.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Americans aren't civilized, just entitled. (Yes, I'm an American)

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here's a good intro video for them:

How Palestine became Colonized

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 9 points 11 months ago

Not sure if you're a troll or just horribly uninformed but Israel has been illegaly occupying Palestine for over 50 years and does not have the right to use military force in occupied Palestine.

[–] daftwerder@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

You have some seriously warped perspective. Israel is indeed committing actual genocide and ethic cleansing. They want to destroy Palestine and relocate what people are left, if any, into other countries. They have been creating illegal settlements for many many years if you want some context for this strategy.

Israel is not "defending" itself. For example, sniping innocent doctors and patients and destroying a hospital is not self defense. The al shifa hospital also has not been found to be a Hamas base... 15 guns and a tunnel are not a military base. If it was, this still would not justify those actions. The scale of this "defense" is really disgusting, especially when Israel has been oppressing the people of Palestine for many decades.