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LoglineCommander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out.


Written by Dana Horgan

Directed by Valerie Weiss

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[–] tukarrs@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really like the look fo the dress uniforms. Surprised that they never got Pike to the stand, especially after Una confessing that she told Pike 4 months ago.

Now that the cast has been reset, I'm ready for them to explore some strange new worlds.

[–] scarecrw@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, the sets and costumes for SNW are setting the bar for TV shows in general, let alone star trek. Just as much as the new plots, I've been looking forward each week just to the visuals.

Yes, this. It’s setting a new bar. Fantastic design, well executed.

SNW seems to have hit a gestalt of not just production and costume design but also lighting and cinematography. Like TOS and early colour television, it’s making the most of the new UHD technology. Everything has come together and is reinforcing the impact.

Discovery was reaching for this in the 32nd century design, and even with the Enterprise bridge as originally built for Discovery season two. The principal ship sets from the first season were an ongoing constraint though. Costume designer a gersha Phillips found her initial attempts to put the Discovery crew into 32nd century uniforms did not stand out against the ship’s dark bridge.

It will be interesting to see if they can achieve something similar in the 32nd century with the new Starfleet Academy show.

[–] triktrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

The crew quarters with those slanted columns look really sleek.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprised that they never got Pike to the stand, especially after Una confessing that she told Pike 4 months ago.

I think Pasalk was pretty out of line with his approach - his questioning essentially amounted to a criminal investigation of someone else. My knowledge of law isn't very strong, but that seems inappropriate.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You generally can't make people incriminate themselves, and upping a charge from fraud to conspiracy would be exactly that. That is, in a court run by laws instead of TV logic she could've remained silent.

...unless there's some special sauce in US law that says "once you take the stand" or something, dunno I don't speak common law and Trek can't help itself but assume US law but it definitely doesn't look kosher.

[–] itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, wouldn't she be able to plead the 5th?

[–] onthenerdyside@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TNG's "The Drumhead" shows us that Federation law (or at least Starfleet Military Code of Justice) includes a similar right. Crewman Simon Tarses invokes the Seventh Guarantee when asked about his Romulan heritage.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely possible that the Seventh Guarantee wasn't part of the Code of Justice until after this incident, too. Maybe there's a push for it after the United Federation of Planets v. Una Chin-Riley ruling because of the conduct of Pasalk.

[–] emmanuel@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

It's possible. In all cases, Batel clearly states to Pike in the mess that the interrogated person has to answer.

[–] itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

There's nothing that beats the knowledge of the collective!

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't help but wonder whether they're setting him up as a badmiral or it was just Chekov's gun from the Vulcan brawl. If the latter, they did a lousy job of tying them together ... I was going with option A while watching and only considered B afterward.