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GAZA/TEL AVIV, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Israel's government and Hamas agreed on Wednesday to a four-day pause in fighting to allow the release of 50 hostages held in Gaza in exchange for 150 Palestinians imprisoned in Israel, and the entry of humanitarian aid into the besieged enclave.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (38 children)

This is such good news. Now the challenge is to keep both sides from reigniting.

I don't really know what Hamas and Haniyeh and Sinwar want, so it's hard to speculate what they'll do, but I know that Netanyahu is trying to reignite the war as hard as he can, and will be desperate to see the ceasefire ended prematurely under circumstances he can blame on Hamas.

For those who haven't followed his career (and his actions in the least week in particular) this seems abundantly clear. The absolute worst thing that could happen to him would be a deescalation that leads to an political negotiations. I really hope the US antiwar movement is prepared to increase their pressure, because I believe it's made the difference in getting us this far. As furious as I've been at Biden's response, I have read multiple reports that the US was far more involved in hostage negotiations than Israel, so I will give Biden this sliver of credit if people actually come home. But he really needs to stop propping up Bibi if he wants to land this plane for real.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is such good news. Now the challenge is to keep both sides from reigniting.

There was a ceasefire already in place prior to the 7th of October attacks

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There was a blockade of Gaza since 2007.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. There were needed controls from Israeli side to ensure as little weapons get there as possible. That’s not blockade. That’s an attempt to prevent a terrorist organization to gain way too much power.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Israel was blockading fucking food ports into Palestine. I'm sick of people trying to justify this extremist bullshit by painting every Palestinian as a terrorist. Yes it was a damn blockade.

And the only reason Israel started the blockade was Hamas getting elected, which Israel helped them to do in the first place.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 months ago

Not every palestinian is terrorist, I agree. So now let’s divide people into 2 categories: West bank inhabitants and Gaza inhabitants.

Hamas in Gaza made the population so radical that both egypt and israel decided to close the borders. They (at least Egypt) would not do it if the population was not so radical.

In the West Bank, people are less radical but still it’s not ideal.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know, instead of relitigating the crimes of both sides until we die, what if we just organize a new peace process already?

It's been a fucking generation since anyone actually tried. And people always say, "Oh, ___ wont' agree to that!" Well, okay, prove it. Book the big room at Olive Garden and see if someone shows up.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously, it would be absolutely awesome to have a peace but firstly we need all the sides to agree on that. With Hamas present, neither Israelis/Palestinians will accept a deal.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Both sides make that claim, and neither is going to sit down as long as they have a choice not to.

Apartheid ended because the rest of the world left the people enforcing it with no means of retaining power. The same must be applied to Israel-Palestine.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

A ceasefire that doesn't involve lifting the blockade is meaningless because the blockade is already an act of war.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

A blockade is an act of war as defined by international law.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

What's your point? I don't see how this relates to either my statement that it is good news that hostages are being released or my statement that it will be a challenge to keep both sides from reigniting.

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