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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You continue to exhibit stunning lack of understanding of geopolitics or even basic geography. Comparing Russia to DPRK is beyond hilarious, but you go on further with the deranged notion that there's going to be some China and India flare up when it's becoming clear that India is patching things up with China right now seeing western insanity. India is currently exploring how to use yuan to pay Russia for energy and just had talks with China about resolving their border dispute.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254958.shtml

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3170314/china-india-border-row-signs-thaw-fresh-round-talks-analyst

If you ever decide to look at a map, then it'll become crystal clear to you that India's interests lie with Russia and China.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

India has ongoing ideological differences with China though, no? Modi doesn't seem very friendly to China from what I've seen.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I expect that pragmatism will ultimately win over ideology. India increasingly sees US as an unstable partner, and US just threatened India with sanctions for continuing trade with Russia. India understands that China will likely be the biggest winner in all this and that BRI will become a huge market that they will want to be a part of.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love your certainty in your ignorance. Like, of course, I'm not sailing that way, because the earth is flat. It's not like China and India aren't skirmishing on their border, are they? China and Russia would be soon too, as well, for water. But current events are placing Russia firmly inside China's orbit. So it won't be much of a skirmish, but a capitulation.

Climate change has forced China to deplete the South China Sea and is now scouring the world. I would not want to share a border with China, at this point, no matter how much I needed the cash. Russia is definitely going to be a second class citizen in this exchange.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes my ignorance says the guy who thinks Russia is like North Korea and that India and China are going to have a flare up. Russia is certainly going to be no worth in that relationship than Canada is sharing a border with the US. You keep on living those fantasies while you can though.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't it, though? Both are failed states that fall back to cries of nuclear weapons when frustrated. Even India and Pakistan are acting more mature these days. And you better believe that if Canada couldn't keep it's shit together that border would be a liability, too. China is massively annoyed that their buffer, North Korea, is smuggling so much meth into China. Either China will begin to encroach on Russian resources, or Russian economic refugees will being flooding China. Probably both.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess you can't see it in yourself. Tell me more how Russia will grow stronger by imploding it's economy. How they invaded out of the kindness of their hearts, to save the Ukrainians from themselves. How Duginism isn't just Russian fascism. Please, go on.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't understand how becoming self sufficient is going to be good for Russia's economy what else is there to say. You keep repeating that it's imploding, but there's literally no evidence to support this notion.

Then you straw man about them invading out of the kindness of their hearts. I certainly can't remember saying anything of the sort.

You've consistently demonstrated that you have no clue regarding the subject you hold very strong opinions on. There's absolutely no point trying to correct you. I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics you'll be doing next year when Russia's economy is still doing fine, while the west starts unravelling.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You've failed to understand international trade. If you default on your loans, nationalize foreign capital, drive your currency into the ground... that's not becoming self-sufficient. Go ahead and quit your job and go live in a tent your backyard, I guess. That'll show them!

And yes, convenient memory of yours. Putin's original rationale for the invasion ("special military operation") was for the benefit of the two provinces that he'd instigated trouble in. But he proved that to be a lie by immediately by charging toward the capital, instead. And then running out of fuel.

I love how you constantly attempt to gas-light, but offer nothing but spinning of narratives in return. Is the west falling apart because #11 in the world's GDP list decided to suicide? Hardly. The result so far has been to strengthen the rationale for NATO, clip the wings off Russia's poorly kept military, and have Putin fire 1000 of his personal staff... because you know, the Russian people love him.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia is a huge industrial power that produces pretty much all the necessities domestically. This is more than pretty much any western nation can say. Thinking that Russia can't survive without trade with western countries that don't even produce anything of value is beyond hilarious.

And yes, convenient memory of yours.

Thing is that I never talked about Putin's rationale. Also, not sure when the Russian army ran out of fuel.

I love how you constantly attempt to gas-light, but offer nothing but spinning of narratives in return.

The spinning narrative here is that you show consistent lack of understanding of the subject you keep attempting to debate.

Is the west falling apart because #11 in the world’s GDP list decided to suicide?

Ah so prices for just about everything aren't going up in the west then, and there is no panic about double digit inflation and a massive recession. Explain to me why Americans decided to let Russia use assets they "froze" to pay debt if everything is going so well.

The result so far has been to strengthen the rationale for NATO

We'll just wait to see how that works out when people can't afford basic necessities which will lead to people not spending money on consumer goods, which will lead businesses to start failing.

Keep doing your chest pumping while you can though.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so egotistical to believe that inflation is related to Russia imploding. Covid-19 has been raging for three years and Putin only invaded three weeks ago. It's this kind of thinking that is destroying Russia. Spooky Color Revolutions! They must be trying to unseat me, says Putin. I'll just invade Ukraine so they'll agree to demilitarize and give me a safety buffer. But having proved to be a dangerous and belligerent neighbor, he's only strengthened NATO's rationale. Bombing all the maternity wards isn't going to convince the Ukrainians to lay down their arms.

I'm curious as to where you get your news. The main column of armor moving on Kyiv was 3 km long on the first day. Then 6 km. It's a 40 km parking lot, dotted by drone strikes, today. Have you really not heard of that?