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SpaceX’s Starship rocket system reached several milestones in its second test flight before the rocket booster and spacecraft exploded over the Gulf of Mexico.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While this test was much more successful than the last one, it shows it will be at least a couple years before starship is fully operational at this rate if development and who knows when they'll be able to get it crew rated.

So I'm already willing to bet artemis 3 gets delayed by at least a year while starship gets developed, which is a big shame.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But at least they'll get there eventually. NASA so far has been entirely incapable of creating their own lander or even contract anyone who could.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you on about? Literally the only people to ever make a lunar lander were NASA??

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

No that one was designed by Grumman. NASA contracted with them for the design, like they're looking to do with the new lander with SpaceX. Blue Origin and Dynetics were also options, but their proposals had huge flaws and were deemed much more risky than SpaceX, which is saying something.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

NASA so far has been entirely incapable of creating their own lander or even contract anyone who could.

The first part of your statement is screwy: NASA doesn't build stuff themselves, they set mission requirements. Their normal approach is to pay a contractor to design and build something to satisfy those requirements. In the case of SpaceX, the company designs and builds with (more of) its own money and then sells rides to NASA.

The second part is screwier: the only US lunar Landers have been traditional NASA programs. What are you basing your assertion that NASA can't procure one on?