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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can make any excuse you want. the fact is that being vegan has not helped the environment at all.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You seem to have a very tough time matching what people say/write and what you feel like they mean with it.

Let me rephrase the original claim so you may understand what the actual topic is you're so furiously debating: Reducing global meat production would be a net benefit to the planet and every being living on it in the long term.

Reducing demand for said production at a large scale WOULD (this is in conjunctive because it's still a small movement so IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET - we all know that) over time force said production to scale down.

Literally no human i have ever interacted with before you thought not buying a steak for a few months instantly fixes the world. We are painfully aware. Which is why we chose not to participate in that insane bullshit which causes all kinds of issues and harm anymore.

Thank you for your time and energy, this has been awfully unproductive.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally no human i have ever interacted with before you thought not buying a steak for a few months instantly fixes the world.

i never said that.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how that works isn't it

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

strawmen? not really. it's exhausting dealing with intellectual dishonesty.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when someone takes you at your word, and then you need to walk back your position to a much weaker claim because they point out that you are writing checks the facts don't support, it's you who is practicing intellectual dishonesty. compounding it with strawmen, and then rhetorically implying it is, in fact, the person who called you out who is being dishonest is the height of intellectual dishonesty. you should be ashamed, and you should edit the comments where you lied so as not to continue to mislead other users.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still talking about the comment that I didn't write? Still implying causality you never proved? Cool.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you keep waffling about whether you lied, but I assure you, you did. you've even owned up to it earlier in the thread, but now you're backsliding.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

You're hilarious. Nice try.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Reducing demand for said production at a large scale WOULD (this is in conjunctive because it’s still a small movement so IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET - we all know that) over time force said production to scale down.

that's not causal.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Reducing global meat production would be a net benefit to the planet and every being living on it in the long term.

that's true. what you said before was not.