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    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I cannot even determine the culprit, to whom am I supposed to file a bug report?

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    At https://bugzilla.mozilla.org maybe? Or just look up "firefox report bug" online, I guess

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't know if Firefox is at fault. It could be Firedragon (the fork I'm using), it could be any of the desktop portals messing things up (looking at you, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk), it could be Arch Linux due to how packagers package each portal, it could be that I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland - this is when the problem first occurred.

    Firedragon's (and the Firefox flatpak's) output doesn't say anything, nothing stands out in their logs, same goes for both Sway and Hyprland - for all I know XDG portals don't even have standalone logs, they just dump error messages to stdout in my experience (which, again, have not been dumped).

    I could send bug reports to everyone, and get told "this isn't our problem, write a bug report to ${OTHER_SOFTWARE}". But then, which logs do I provide? All of them? Sure, I can gather up logs and non-existent messages from several pieces of software, one of them being a glorified API.

    It would have taken me a good hour to find the relevant data, find the correct places to write reports to, word things in a quasi-professional manner, all for a small chance for any of the developers of something to answer something that is not a variation of "can't help you bro, your logs are anorexic".

    So, after reminiscing the days of writing Windows registry keys and seeing no results (by writing XDP hints all over the system AND rebooting), I took 10 minutes to vent and make a meme - NoScript was intefering with imgflip, otherwise I would have needed 3.

    I could not, in fact, definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took me to make this.

    [–] Rednax@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Odd, that's exactely what my friends tell me when I'm playing BG3 and a bug causes me to get stuck in dialogue (in a Windows 10 VM)

    [–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Because I'm not installing that thing on bare metal

    [–] nogrub@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

    Idk whether Proton or natively but no issues at all running it on Pop

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It does, but the Steam DRM bypassing thing that I'm being peer-pressured into using does not

    (not that I'm against buying good games like BG3, it's just that I'm not going to spend 70€ on a game that is just not my type (plus, there's peer pressure going on here))

    [–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Firedragon is a fork of Librewolf (which is a fork of Firefox), not Firefox. It’s not Firefox at fault.

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Case in point

    (although Firefox also refused to work)

    [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I hate not knowing if my bug report is valid.

    [–] PlatinumSf@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

    Perhaps an invalid opinion, but a bug report that falls outside of scope because of lack of detail or lack of reproduction is still a valid bug report for metrics and general user experience imo. Could lead to interoperability efforts, user experience recommendations, user education utilities, or a bug getting patched but the end result is always the same: a better experience for the end user.

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In that case you could maybe see if it works correctly for you in firefox installed via flatpak from flathub. Those are official builds and bug reports on them should go to Mozilla directly.

    It could be related to hyprland though. I think I read somewhere that one of those lightweight WMs (or whatever it really is idk sry lol) doesn't ship a portals config file for x-d-p to exactly know which exact implementation to use. Maybe arch doesn't have that issue though

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

    I've read through all the possible bug reports and forum help requests, and used the flatpak Firefox at every point I tried a solution.

    In the end I managed to solve the problem, though I'm sure it'll pop back out at some point.

    [–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland

    That's 100% what it is. Changing desktop environments has almost always led to issues in my experience. If you want to use a different DE, make a new user account or reinstall the distro.

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

    It turned out not to be the problem, I just incidentally changed other stuff while doing it

    [–] smeg@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Everyone involved, worst case they just close them

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    As I said in another other comment to someone else, there is a quite noticeable difference in effort between typing sentences on imgflip and hunting bugs.

    [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, you've determined a major part of what's causing it. There is not much more to add, just submit what you have.

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

    The only thing I can correctly report is that the termfilechooser portal causes something to die somewhere at some point - it never even worked in the first place.

    It's above my 0$/h paygrade at this point

    [–] nogrub@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    "works on my machine" closes bugreport