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Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu says Palestinian civilians being killed en masse are simply “collateral damage” (www.huffpost.com)

submitted 11 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/news@beehaw.org

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The right-wing leader appeared on multiple cable news shows to speak on the current state Israel’s monthlong siege on Gaza, which human rights experts have warned amount to ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk accused both Israel and Hamas of war crimes, and said that the only solution to the violence is to end the Israeli occupation and allow Palestinians the right to self-determination.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it's quotes like these that result in a massive swing of support for a ceasefire despite a massively funded propaganda campaign in the media by israeli linked groups

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a one-sided ceasefire, or a two-sided ceasefire? Would you expect Hamas to keep its end of a ceasefire agreement?

[+] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter what Hamas agrees to or doesn’t,

So you don't want a ceasefire, you want Israel to stop unilaterally and then whatever happens to it next is fine by you, right?

Don't call it a ceasefire if you don't know what a ceasefire exist.

up to this point the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israelis has been 25:1.

Really? 1200 Israelis murdered on October 7th, you're really telling me that over 30,000 Palestinians have been killed?

You wanna maybe try that again?

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was referring to the comparative death tolls over the course of Israel’s decades long

alright I'm going to ignore the rest of your antisemitic bullshit and just focus on the ratio you picked, probably also out of made-up numbers (and I doubt you included all the Israeli soldiers killed in wars started by surrounding Muslim nations pretending to act on Palestinians' behalf), to frame the issue without ignoring what actually happened.

Over the past few decades, the Palestinians have started every damn war they could against Israel, including two intifadas, suicide bombings, rockets aimed vaguely at civilians (historically, roughly 1/3-1/4 of the rockets fired from Gaza since 2001 landed in Gaza). Hamas has built plenty of tunnels in Gaza, but no workers, because it prefers to see its civilians die because it makes the statistics more gruesome and keeps their control of the gaza strip going.

Meanwhile, Israelis invest billions into not only technology like the Iron Dome to defend Israeli civilians, but also in warning technology like roof knocking tech, medical tech that it used to save Palestinian lives, including that of Yahya Sinwar, and... Oh yeah, remember the thousands of greenhouses they left in Gaza in 2005 when they unilaterally withdrew? Gee, what ever happened to those?

So Palestinians:

Don't defend their own
Send their own into suicide missions—sometimes, in that history, literally
Literally kill their own (and count the numbers against Israel in their often made-up statistics, see the Al-Ahli hospital explosion)

[–] FaulerFuffi@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Hamas wouldn't have attacked, Israel would currently not be at war with them. Great that you think that you know the REAL reason for everything but it doesn't change the fact that Hamas attacked Israel.