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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Beyond these crazy and terrible events, I'm left wondering what the big picture end game was here? Was it to block Israel from normalizing relationships with neighbouring foes, or is it a part of a bigger play by foes of Israel to highlight the injustices from their point of view?

This sacrifice of the innocents on all sides is a terribly high price on humanity and how long an eye for an eye will take to play out in the generations to follow.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I don't know if there is an endgame. Just dogs chasing cars. I do know a lot of people have died.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doubt there was any goal or forethought past 'kill Israelis'

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

No, there's definitely an underlying tone of "hang onto power".

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Was it to block Israel from normalizing relationships with neighbouring foes

This was the goal of the October attacks, yes. This goal has failed, thus far.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

The big picture is that in both countries groups/parties want to have the other people gone. Preferably with international support or the support of neighbouring countries.

Everytime they entangle themselves in a conflict, on both sides the number of radicals and extremists grows and with it the power of extremist parties.

For them peace is only when the others are gone. That is why it seems so unlikely that they are open for peace talks as long as these right-wing extremists are in power.

Many don't want to hear this, but for Hamas their biggest chance in the war is that Israel loses international support. They have no issue with sacrificing Palestinians for this, quite the opposite.