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The government is days away from a Nov. 18 shutdown, which could force Transportation Security Administration (TSA) employees and federal air traffic controllers to work without pay just as the busy Thanksgiving travel season begins.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why is it that people are forced to work without pay when it's Congress that's not able to do it's job?

Let them all stay home and absolute chaos erupt. Maybe then Congress will be able to come to some sort of compromise if they actually had consequences to face.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you don't pay me why the fuck would I go to work? Is there a law preventing federal employees from basically furloughing themselves?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure air traffic control is required by law to show up for work during a federal shutdown even if they aren't being paid.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"These folks are responsible for the very important and stressful job of making sure planes don't crash into each other."

"Should we pay them?"

"Nah."

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

collects paycheck for causing said shutdown

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Is that the WTC?

No.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

iirc pretty much yes

Non-essential offices and staff close, essential staff are forced to work unpaid

Generally they will be paid back after the shutdown ends

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

~~They have always been paid back, but they are not legally required to be paid back.~~

They do it because if they didn't, they would have mass quieting, i.e actual consequences. Refusing to backpay even once would end this shutdown game forever because 99% of "essential" workers would walk the fuck off immediately the next time.

Congress fully understand what fuckery they are up to, and are 100% counting on people not calling them on their bullshit.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

they are not legally required to be paid back.

Employees who are forced to work have always been legally entitled to payment for their work after the shutdown ends.

In past shutdowns, employees who were furloughed (forced to stay home) were not legally entitled to payment after the shutdown, but nevertheless were paid as if they had shown up. As of 2019, they are now legally entitled too.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Good info. Appreciate the correction.

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I know. That was auto correct being stupid not me. I never type ' it always does it automatically even if it isn't required sometimes.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You running autoshit is clearly not stupid.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is it stupid when it corrects 99% of important shit correctly and doesn't correct the 1% of mundane shit that only Grammer Nazis care about?

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

You're wrong. It "corrects" already correct shit into shit shouldn't and AIN'T.

Also, stop saying Nazi anymore. They're about to literally kill you doing that shit before too long. So get out of the habit now. Also, they can track you here.