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    [–] drugo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I think the arguments against the "bloat" are not towards systemd as an init system, but rather are because systemd does so many things other than being an init system. I also don't mind systemd, but I absolutely hate systemd-resolved. I do not want my init system to proxy DNS queries by setting my resolv.conf to 127.0.0.53. Just write systemd- and press tab, that's "the bloat". I'm not saying that the systemd devs should not develop any new tools, but why put them all inside one software package? systemd-homed is cool, but useless for 99% of users. Same with enrolling FIDO2 tokens in a LUKS2 volume with systemd-cryptenroll. Far from useless or "bad", but still bloat for an init system.

    [–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Now that you mention it, I find systemd messing with my DNS settings incredibly annoying as well, so I can't help but agree on that point. At this production system at work, when troubleshooting, I often need to alter DNS between local, local (in chroot), some other server in the same cluster, and a public one. This is done across several service restarts and the occasional reboot. Not being able to trust that resolv.conf remains as I left it is frustrating.

    On the newest version of our production image, systemd-resolvd is disabled.