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    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Use systemd if you want. It's not perfect, but nothing is. There are certainly good reasons to use systemd, including, but not limited to, that it's the default on most distros and you don't want to mess with init systems. My only complaint is that too much software and documentation is written with the expectation that you have systemd for no good reason, which makes it harder to leave, which makes more people stick with it, which is an excuse to neglect support for other init systems even more.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    for no good reason

    I think the reason is that almost everyone uses systemd

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

    That just sounds like a reason to not bother supporting Linux, when Windows is so much more popular

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. That was my point. It's a self fulfilling cycle of people using it because it's all that's supported, and it being all that's supported because people use it. I think that is a problem. That's the same reason most software is for Windows. I don't think that's a good reason.

    [–] ale@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My question was just curiosity. If there's a good reason to switch to something else, I'd like to know, you know?

    [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You get a lot more transparency with the other init systems. Systemd is a big system that does lots of things and it's not always possible to see everything it's doing, because it's doing a lot.

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It also likes to hide things behind port redirections and binary storage of things that have always been text before so you pretty much have to use their tools to even read them

    [–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I assume there's an advantage to the binary formats though. More efficient in terms of storage size? Easier to quickly search by a particular field even in huge files? Maybe something like that. (I genuinely don't know)

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I can actually understand what's going on with other init systems. They're basically just a list of stuff that gets run before you even log in. I do not understand everything that systemd does. I like understanding what my computer is doing. Most people don't care about that, and there's nothing wrong with that, but systemd is not what I want. I feel forced into using it anyway though, because it can be a lot of work to avoid it, and there's no reason for that beyond the fact that not enough people care.

    I get it. I'm in a small niche within a small niche. Nobody owes me an easy alternative to systemd. I'd still like one though.