Bruh, centuries of capitalist exploitation of its citizens and treating them like a disposable commodity would like to have a word on the whole 'citizens killed by their own country' topic.

How many thousands or millions of citizens die yearly because they can't afford to live in this fucked up system?

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So whataboutism really is the only argument for communism lmao

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao nope. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Asks for link that doesn’t say “hurr durr capitalism bad

Gets a link from Marxists.org

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I made this comment without looking at the website but WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WEBSITE

[+] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

None? People don't starve to death in western countries. And where they do the issue is lack of infrastructure. A communist government couldn't conjure the resources needed to build that out of thin air either.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

None? People don’t starve to death in western countries. And where they do the issue is lack of infrastructure.

"This thing doesn't happen, and when it does, it's not the fault of capitalism itself" is a monumentally stupid argument. Especially when talking about the homeless population, which absolutely does have people that starve.

A communist government couldn’t conjure the resources needed to build that out of thin air either.

And the capitalist economy chose not to build it because it wasn't profitable, or after it was built, it was too expensive to be used.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not to mention that the people in the global south starve because their food production literally goes to the west. What a fucking moron.

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 months ago

Where is your great communist country ?? Oh wait, it's not there. It doesn't exist and it never will. Capitalism works. Not perfect but it works. Your idealized version of communism is great but so is my idealized version of capitalism where everyone has a shot at the American dream!

[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

saying that "people don't starve to death in western countries" without understanding in the slightest the actual harms of food insecurity and how it leads to death is a very accurate representation of the scientific ignorance and sociopathic lack of empathy that capitalism supporters bring to the table in these kinds of discussions a hundred times out of a hundred