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Big words from that guy

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[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

He should have listened the majority of Americans who knew exactly what to expect. That he didn't shows that he has terrible personal judgement.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

the majority of Americans who knew exactly what to expect

HARD disagree on that bit. Seems obvious in retrospect, after years of non-stop nightmare headlines, but we mostly thought it would be a joke of a Presidency. Trump was a late-night show laughingstock for a couple of decades. Think Obama knew what he was triggering? FFS, even the President didn't know what was coming.

(If you haven't seen the video of Obama body slamming Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner, it's going down as an important turning point in American history. Seriously.)

Remember everyone being shocked and appalled that Trump ordered his press secretary to brazenly lie about his inauguration turnout being bigger than Obama's, even given in-your-face pictorial evidence? That was how it began.

We didn't expect the man to lead us into a million dead Americans when confronted with a century-level pandemic. Any ass could have kept his mouth shut and done better.

I cannot even begin to list the man's crimes, but his Presidency ended in an attempted fucking coup. Anybody foresee that?

The majority of us knew it was a bad idea. Not one-tenth of one-percent of us thought it would be that fucking bad.

(Sorry OP. I get a little triggered talking about 01/06)

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actually I feel I can honestly say that with Trump I got exactly the joke of a human being that I expected. The thing that completely caught me off guard was the way the GOP behaved in response to him.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I actually did predict a bit of that!

We never talked politics at work, but the owners were evangelical Christians. Very cool about it, never brought that shit into work.

VP engaged me one day in 2015. Told him if Trump won it would be the end of the GOP.

Hated Trump, but he was genuinely puzzled and asked me why I thought that. Couldn't articulate it at the time, but I could see they would tear themselves apart. Or, same difference, eat themselves Ouroboros style.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think there were way more than 0.1% who knew how bad it would be.

During Trump's inauguration, my dad was making jokes about when the "Reichstag fire" would happen (jokes because my MAGA father was looking forward to it).

Remember also that Trump was saying the 2016 election was being stolen up to the moment he won, so back then it was pretty clear he was not going to go peacefully if he lost in 2020.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

His crying about "losing" 2016 because of the popular vote was garden variety narcissist shit. I'm not sure anyone predicted that he would summon a fucking mob of lunatics to the Capitol, at least not in 2016. By the end of 2020, yeah, it was damned predictable.

There was a great tweet not long before the election, "Ever broken up with a narcissist? Y'all are going to see some shit."

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's a billionaire. He thinks he's defacto smarter than everyone. It's what happens when you're surrounded by sycophants who just want your money.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Pretend billionaire.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Being wealthy has exactly NOTHING to do with being smart after the first generation. I think that they in fact get STUPIDER and more disconnected from reality every generation.