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In a dispute over a repair law, Subaru and Kia crippled their own wireless features in Massachusetts. Maine could be next.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, I think the only proper response to this is just a boycott or a straight ban on companies that do that in the states. It would let smaller companies slide in, or other competitors take over. Currently it's a contest between the two companies and their customers, just don't buy if they don't have the features, companies will either revert the decision or pull out of the regions.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The solution is strong regulation. Just completely disallow things like this.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is the true answer here.

Government doing it's job and regulating companies to prevent anti-consumer practices and hostile design.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. There's not like hundreds of unknown car manufacturers just waiting for this privacy opportunity to strike so they make it big, who can then ramp up production to meet the need.. There's no way free market principles can provide a solution in this case

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And when all the auto manufacturers are doing that? We all drive a Little Tikes coupe?

Not like we have much choice because they will all do it.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not have the time or money to repair a used vehicle. I can finance a functioning one but that’s about it.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm confused how you can afford to finance a new car but can't afford the occasional repair on a used one. I wasn't referring to buying one with a blown up engine, missing a carb compliant cat, and a transmission in limp mode.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Capitalism always takes over, if there is potential to sell someone will step in. Used to have small car shops and stores all around, big companies came in and they all closed shop, it'll go back to that most likely, although it's more likely other competitors will take advantage of the situation and just move in instead. Especially if the situation expands to further states.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’d hope the free market will move in and create competition. I am pessimistic though. I think anyone who tries will be shut down by buyouts/suppression.

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, imagine a small rural town trying to start their own car factory today.

"Oh, it's going to cost $100 Million? Well shit..."

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Economies of scale are a bitch.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The magic hand of the free market is an illusion created by capitalists trying to fool consumers into thinking they have the power of choice. Someone will only step in to fill in a void if it's economically viable. Too many people depend on cars, in the US, to just... not buy them. And preparing to fill that void takes a metric fuck ton of capital and time to set up. In the mean time people need vehicles to get around. Not to mention commercial fleets, delivery vehicles and rentals.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Your example makes the opposite of your point. How are small companies supposed to compete against the economy of scale? This is especially true in things that require a lot of manufacturing. There's an insane amount of upfront capital necessary to even be able to come close to competing.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever seen a boycott actually work. We need to force them with regulation or other means.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the States at least there are far too many dumb consumers for any meaningful boycott. I think we'll have to rely on the EU to save us, as usual.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This is really sad. We should be organizing to save ourselves.