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Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook's imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy.

Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion.

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958

Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?

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[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

probably an unpopular opinion but facebook does also have a sort of track record of contributing to open source projects in ways that benefit everyone. facebook wanted to use subversion (or some other non-git source control) and contributed significantly so that it would work great for huge repositories like theirs. and facebook use memcached for their caches and contribute heavily so that they can use it more efficiently.

i’m also skeptical about end motivations, but in terms of being able to lend engineering effort to open source projects and helping to create a better product for all, it’s not such a bad idea.

[–] phazed09@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They're behind React which has become pretty ubiquitous in the frontend dev space too.

[–] ritswd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For the source control system you’re thinking of Mercurial, and yep indeed that’s accurate.

They also notoriously open-sourced Hack and HHVM, their monolith’s language compiler and runtime. It’s a pretty narrow use case (having a PHP monolith and wanting it to scale), but they didn’t have to do it.

Anyway yeah, they indeed have pretty good genuine history with their open source efforts.

[–] Dirk_Darkly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least it's not a bad idea until they leverage those tools they helped develop to takeover or dissolve services. I think it's about time we start learning our lesson with these big corps rather than trying to give them a chance.

[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hear you. I could imagine that the biggest "threat" is that facebook comes out with some incredible contributions and features, but it requires modifying activitypub or in some way restricts instances that want those tools from collaborating with the rest of the fediverse. Causing a fediverse split between those who want meta's features, and are willing to fall under meta's control, and those who would rather not have them could be bad.

[–] Rune@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google has a similar reputation and yet XMPPs half rotten corpse is still floating down the river

[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

oh yeah, "killed by google" is definitely a thing. a real big thing.