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[–] sirdorius@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I agree with the title, this particular analysis is kind of shallow. It's one thing to analyze predatory game design, but here it's mostly "I don't like this so it's bad". It's also very narrowly focusing on AAA open world. Old AAA open worlds were much worse. Remember how empty and soulless the first Far Cry and AssCreed were?

I laughed when the author makes a bunch of examples where he calls cutscenes a waste of time. I don't like action games for example and I can't find any enjoyment in Dark Souls, but I'm not going to argue that it's a waste of time or ignore the fact that people genuinely like it.

And then he goes on to say that modern games are made by random people in tech that aren't into gaming. I mean, bro, have you tried applying for a fucking job as a game developer?? Participated in a lunch break at a gaming company where 90% of people only talk about videogames?

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then he goes on to say that modern games are made by random people in tech that aren’t into gaming. I mean, bro, have you tried applying for a fucking job as a game developer?? Participated in a lunch break at a gaming company where 90% of people only talk about videogames?

Yeah. I guarantee there's nobody in game develop that isn't into gaming. Not only is game development much harder than regular web development you also get paid less and are usually treated worse. I love gaming but I wouldn't go into game development because it's just not worth the effort for me. I'll much rather do my cushy regular tech work and have more time playing games.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends. There are some people here and there. But also, you don't need to be a hardcore gamer to do a LOT of the technical work in gaming. Mostly you just need to be really good at coding and somehow prefer decent snacks and a lax dress code to money and job stability.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Technically you don't need to be a gamer at all to work in gaming if you're a good developer, but the question is why? Because my experience has been that you get decent snacks and lax dress code in addition to money and job stability. From my experience the only reason to go into game dev is because you want to work on games. If that's not the reason you're just better off doing tech work elsewhere.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, no, we're not disagreeing here. Absolutely go spend a decade sorting out a single form in a banking software thing. It is objectively the better choice.

All I'm saying is the few people who get into it non-vocationally are mostly there for the vibes.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Bro, banks are one of the worst places to work. I would rather work as a game dev than go into banking. There are infinitely better places to work at but if your experience is only between banking and game dev then I can see how game dev could look much more appealing.

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[–] Stamets@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was another video post to this community last night at around the same time (although was later deleted) saying "Why aren't games fun anymore?"

This entire thing feels shallow as hell and just one angry dude who's pissed about things not being like they used to be so he's whining about it to other people who are angry.

There is literally nothing objective about this. It's all using heavy skewed data to try and prove its point. He has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. He's just angry and saying things that he thinks are intelligent to try and back up his point.

Only thing I've discovered from this post is another "analyzer" to avoid at all possible costs.

[–] sirdorius@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

This type of nostalgia porn is pretty popular on Youtube, but usually they at least make some valid point. Not in this case though.

It's also funny how Skyrim is presented as one of the 'cool' games, glossing over the fact that it has a massive, slow exposition dump at the beginning, which was criticized ever since it launched.