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Ban all cars
Banning all cars is impractical because of last mile delivery and rural areas, but car usage must be dramatically decreased especially for commuting
also speed limits should be decreased in town centres and some car types (pickup trucks, etc) should be banned
Drivers need to be held accountable and there needs to be infrastructure in place so that individuals that cannot/ refuse to be held accountable have alternate transportation options.
If you crash your BMW (with dozens of driver assistance features) into a Pub, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If you cannot share roads with other road users without getting angry, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If you feel entitled to drive a vehicle on the roads, but believe that motorcyclists, trucks, cyclists and pedestrians should not receive those same entitlement, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If your attention span is so short that you cannot drive a vehicle without getting distracted by a handheld device, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle.
Amen 🙌
Last mile delivery:
that's pretty cool but wouldn't be nice in hilly areas
They're usually electric assisted though; no problems with hills.
Busses shouldn't be profitable anyway, it's meant to be a service
How far is the train station?
No worries. Ban the trucks and get an electric bike.
https://feddit.uk/comment/4170453
It's unreasonable to live there then. Your choice relies on the rest of the world paying the price of unnecessary car trips and the infrastructure for it. And not just now but people in the future will bear the consequences of your decision to live in a place that requires that.
In the short term, it would be time to either relocate to somewhere more practical, or change your lifestyle.
Before cars there were much more extensive public transport and freight systems, especially in regions that weren’t serviced by extant rail corridors.
Just in Western Gippsland;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strzelecki_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonthaggi_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noojee_railway_line
Unfortunately, since these Alignments were abandoned by disuse, much of the land has been reclaimed by farmers and developers using colonial-era squatters rights laws. There would need to be extensive Eminent Domain claims raised to reestablish the type of coverage we had before Private vehicles became ubiquitous.
Do you think innocent lives is a fair price to pay for your convenience?
Driving a car creates a higher risk of killing people than anything else most people do in their lives. Just look at the road toll. Don't kid yourself, we're definitely talking about a trade-off between convenience and risk to people's lives.