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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee to c/star_wars@lemmy.world

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Well, this was a whole lot better than I was expecting. Bonus pts for the creator sourcing his green screen reference vid.

I do kinda wonder how many modern SW fans remember the hilarious Naked Gun movies. I guess this might look pretty ridiculous if not.

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their successors forgot that however thin, the underlying movie has to be watchable, or you lose something. Maybe it’s just generational (always have to allow for that at my age), but I kind of think that Scary Movie et al is stuff that is not nearly as timeless.

That reminds me of one of the major keys to the success of the ZAZ movies, which was to hire a cast known for their serious, dramatic roles, a type which Nielsen epitomized. At no point could the actors indicate that the situations going on around them were funny, otherwise the illusion might be punctured.

Perhaps some of the later imitation films, like Scary Movie et al, kind of drifted away from that premise, I don't know.

Speaking of Blazing Saddles, I recall reading that the musicians and orchestra were told that they were producing music for a classic-style western, and when they ultimately learned that the movie was an intentional farce, they were *not* amused.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The ZAZ movies had a very specific style that relied on that. Every single character was the "straight man" and the bonkers shit was the universe. Mel Brooks was much more side-eye and poking at the fourth wall. In either case, I wanted Nick Rivers and Lone Starr and Sheriff Bart to succeed though. It wasn't complete anarchy or loosely connected sketches, and the juxtaposition of the absurd being hung on a pretty generic narrative structure makes it funnier, I think.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Laate reply, but very interesting comments that do make a lot of sense to me, particularly about the different mechanisms used in the ZAZ and Mel Brooks' movies.

Judging from more recent movies clearly built on the models above, I feel like in general, modern directors & producers try to broadcast more to the audience as to how and when to react. That is-- in this post-MTV age, it seems like they're more scared of potential dead air time, and want to avoid indulging too much in the deadpan, pregnant moments common in ZAZ films. Ones that made them so delicious, of course, tending to appeal to the thoughtful person.

By comparison, King of the Hill is maybe a rare case of a cartoon comedy that wasn't entirely concerned with whether the audience understood the full humor of the situations. Just popped in to my head anyway, so I thought I'd mention it.