this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
143 points (100.0% liked)

World News

22059 readers
148 users here now

Breaking news from around the world.

News that is American but has an international facet may also be posted here.


Guidelines for submissions:

These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.


For US News, see the US News community.


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

One captured Russian soldier says he worries about what will happen if he is returned to Russia in a prisoner swap. “If I have the opportunity, I’ll refuse to be exchanged." Another fighter reported that a doctor declared him unfit for combat after he was wounded in March, but his commander ordered him back to the front.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's documentaries about how rampant the propaganda is, that people get imprisoned and killed if they avoid service, and that there are rituals in the Russian military where soldiers steal money and food from other "platoons" just to survive. Not even starting to describe all different kinds of hazing going on there.

What I'm saying is, what they do is wrong and there should be more critical thinking and more uproar in the Russian society, but considering how jaded ppl out there are to government fuckery and the precarious circumstances, the soldiers are the last ones to blame.

Let's stick to the all encompassing Fuck Putin.

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, I agree, and I know it’s all Putin’s fault. However:

  • He’s backed up by a broad elite and government and many in the populace naively hung ho
  • It’s soldierswho pull the trigger daily on missile strikes targeting civilian targets. It doesn’t matter the propaganda for the war to know it’s wrong
  • It’s soldiers committing the war crimes, many of them, of rape, torture, threat of killing and more. This was confirmed this past week by a UN report describing it as systemic, broadly consistent and widespread. Soldiers, humans, can and should know better.

I was a soldier in the military long ago. I made a mental note of who around me who would do whatever they were told, no matter how bad it would be (and I asked them directly, not just my guessing) and those like me who would have a limit and decide to say no at some point. It was about 50/50.

Soldiers aren’t robots, even if commanders wish they were. They are humans and should try to be humane and thoughtful. If the war you’re sent to fight doesn’t make any sense, ask questions and demand good answers. If it’s all shit, don’t do it.