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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think there should be a 4k tier. They should be tiered on ads and number of users. Why should quality be a tier?

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why should quality be a tier?

The cost of storing and serving 4k content is much, much higher than 1080p.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

The cost of storing and serving 1080p is much, much higher than not storing or serving any content yet they still do that. It's what we're paying them for. Furthermore 'streaming 4k' is pretty compressed already and comes nowhere near the level of bitrate of a 4k bluray.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Not really. I mean there is, but both bandwidth and storage get cheaper by the day. Delivering 4k content today is probably an order of magnitude cheaper per bit than delivering HD content was a decade ago.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I would say that was a valid argument a decade ago when 4k came out. I'm completely baffled that we STILL market 1080 as high quality. Furthermore, I would say that was a valid argument if these fucks weren't taking in record profits over and over and over again. It's not a cost issue. It's a greed issue.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Storing is done once by simply offering a 4k option*.

Bandwidth is an ongoing cost per view, but no where near the increased plan cost to cover it.

*technically more than once because of distributed CDNs which would need to scale to demand. But negligible.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I mean they cache it all via CDN. In some cases that means they've got 1000 copies of a popular show sitting on CDNs around the world, and in some cases that means they are dynamically pushing content to CDNs on demand.

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why should quality be a tier?

Because it costs more to stream 4k content than lower quality content?

Not agreeing with it, but the justification is easy to make.

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It costs inconsequentially more to host large files, sure, but the cost is usually on the consumer vis-à-vis their ISP to stream larger files.

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It costs inconsequentially more to host large files, sure, but the cost is usually on the consumer vis-à-vis their ISP to stream larger files.

You are wording this like you are disagreeing, while still agreeing with what I said.