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Well said. Louis Rossmann made a post with a similar angle yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06rCBIKM5M
But yeah, the complacency is real.
It's funny how people are posting on reddit how reddit sucks and how there are no good alternatives, saying the alternatives don't have critical mass in terms of user numbers, while it's literally this beavior that prevents said critical mass.
People love to whine and talk about grandstanding. But as soon as there are even minor changes to their personal convenience, many give up and roll over.
It's sobering but have we as humanity ever been different? Radical change is often not driven by communities but by individuals.
Personally I look at it like this. Groups of humans are by definition stupid. The larger the group the lower the average intelligence.
Therefore I don't think communities can ever truly "act as one". Your best bet is having enough individuals that all have the wisdom to make similar independent choices. It may look like "the community" is doing something but we're still just talking about individuals.
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I concur with your viewpoint. There's no doubt that individuals have historically been catalysts for change. However, my concern lies in the recent trend where these change-makers seem to be acting against society's broader interests.
Take the French Revolution as an example - a time when collective action effectively enforced justice, albeit in a harsh manner. Large groups came together, stood up for what was right, and held the wrongdoers accountable. It's a compelling case for the power of collective action.
In contrast, the current pattern of individualistic actions appears less beneficial for society as a whole. That's a trend we might want to discuss and address further.
undefined> It’s funny how people are posting on reddit how reddit sucks and how there are no good alternatives, saying the alternatives don’t have critical mass in terms of user numbers
Y'know, I'm starting to think this is a real positive.
I've been on reddit for about 12 or 13 years. Quite a heavy user - until I quit it two weeks ago in protest. Small thing but it actually meant a lot to me.
But now I'm realising something: Reddit was actually quite bad for my mental health. The amount of bots and shitposters, and some really toxic mods too (we weren't all the Angels that we're being painted like now).
And, on all but the quietest subs, if you don't get your reply in within the first hour, or even minutes in the busier subs, anything you say gets lost in the churn. Get in first, you get the upvotes. This feeds the karma-cravings of browsing /new to get noticed and that can be very addictive if you're that way inclined.
All of that badness is exactly because Reddit has achieved critical mass. None of it happens here. The quality is poster is better here. Sure, there's less of us, but that means we can actually have a decent discussion like now. And also, we kinda care what happens to this system. Most people didn't care about Reddit as a whole. Maybe their favourite subs, especially if they were mods. But over the past few years I've realised how the admins view the users, and it's not nice.
I won't be going back to Reddit.
(As for the rest of your point, kinda agree that the world is going to hell. But do please accept that ignoring the bad stuff and not keeping up with the global news cycle is a survival technique for many people.)
Well said. 13 years on my belt here as well. Deleted all posts and comments and never looked back.
I mentioned this in other threads as well, but only after quitting did I notice how the Reddit of today has actually not much in common with the site I joined many moons ago.
In the beginning it used to be a mostly text-based clunky forum type deal. And that's how I kept thinking of it throughout the years. While in reality, more and more of the most upvoted content recently has been the same braindead short video stuff as on other social media sites. Short attention span moving images; little to no actual substance. The Dopamine Slot Machine Doom Scroller (TM) patented and honed to perfection by our Silicon Valley Overlords.
It was only after quitting the Snoo cold turkey that I realized how much this kind of content was numbing my brain, how I waded through the stupid daily in search of in-depth forum-type threads, only to find less and less of it.
So yeah, all of this has been a net positive for me for sure.
Feels a bit like the proverbial frog being slowly boiled to death in shitty content without ever noticing, because the enshittification was so gradual.
So I guess, thanks /u/spez?
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