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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions

[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates.

If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were also very unpopular before Oct 7 and I doubt they've gotten any more popular since then.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Popularity doesn't really matter when they were, and are, the power in charge in Gaza.

And "popularity" will go through the roof if, somehow, they are the ones that get the Israeli Government to stop being genocidal dicks and actually make concessions... by raping and murdering Israeli, German, and UK citizens?

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Israel controls the borders

how can Hamas do this

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is also the West Bank, however.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Yes, though most of the stuff is about Gaza