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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what is your magic answer for emergency services in a zero car world?

Oh... look - the person that can't argue without resorting to hysterical hyperbole is mysteriously resorting to yet more hysterical hyperbole.

Who woulda thunk it?

What are you trying to do - win the prestigious "Right-wing Shill Of The Year" award?

Can you show me one person that has ever advocated for this (alleged) "zero-car" world?

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying we do need cars and a road network?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So I guess that's a yes on the“Right-wing Shill Of The Year” award thing, huh?

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd wager I've been an active member of more leftwing movements than you, certainly since you seem to be in the very naive mindset of 'anyone who disagrees with me must be a right wing monster'

But I'll accept that as a 'yes we still need roads and you were right about the integrated transport network thing and first/last mile and the many areas where trains don't make sense economically or ecologically'

I think it's Mao in Contradictions that talks about how in the search for a better world you can't afford to hold resentment against tools simply because they were once in your enemies hands, or maybe it was Deng, but the point is if cars can help us in the structure of a better society we shouldn't reject them just because they can also be useful in a bad society.

Certainly we shouldn't resist improving them simply out of some emotive grudge.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’d wager I’ve been an active member of more leftwing movements than you

Don't bet anything you might need now, you hear?

Mao in Contradictions

I don't give a fuck what Mao or Deng has to say about anything - do tell... what reactionary faux-left organisations have you actually been in?

No wonder you are so ready to shill for capitalists.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

Do you have any argument based on anything besides yelling and stomping your feet? So far all you've done is backtrack on your original statements and cry about how I'm not left wing enough, or the wrong kind of left wing or whatever your next childish attempt at defection from the topic is.

It's ok you can just say that you don't really understand the complexity of mass transit systems and that your original stance was nothing but kneejerk emotion - you don't need to keep making yourself look more foolish.

I'm sure you're very sweet really when you're not all flustered like this, take a moment to breathe and try to remember that being wrong doesn't have to be scary it can be exciting, it's learning and putting you on a better track for thinking about things in the future.