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    [–] cephus@lemmy.world 271 points 1 year ago (56 children)

    Would be funny if it was true...but you never pay for OS updates on Mac.

    [–] anonono@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    You pay it by buying new hardware.

    My 2013 macbook pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD has been deprecated by apple so the latest OS it gets is Big Sur, it has now been barred from signing updates (since they require the latest XCode which I cannot get with Big Sur) so its only viable life is via Linux from now on.

    I have had to buy a Mac Mini with 8 GB of RAM and a 250 GB SSD to be able to upload updates for my iOS apps.

    I mean I can afford it, but yeah, we are paying for OS updates dude.

    That's the reason they also updated their EULAs to set a minimum renting period of 24hs for providers like Amazon and MacStadium. They want you buying hardware, they don't want to leave any easy way out.

    [–] accideath@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There are still workarounds for getting new macOS on older not supported hardware (aka the OpenCore Legacy Patcher) which works very well, even with really old macs. But yes, of course, there are no official updates.

    That’s not an Apple problem per se though, that’s an industry problem. Windows 11 isn’t officially supported on Devices older than 2018 and unofficially not older than like 2015-ish, if you want full functionality and a non-hacky install (because of TPM 2.0). Also, most Android phones have a notoriously short period getting updates (although that is getting better with some manufacturers promising and delivering way more than before).

    [–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows 11 isn’t officially supported on Devices older than 2018 and unofficially not older than like 2015-ish

    Having old computers not compatible with the latest OS is not a problem, just keep running Windows 10. Having an OS that no longer gets security updates is a huge problem.

    Fortunately Apple goes out of their way to ensure their hardware doesn't survive that long anymore.

    [–] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    Windows 10 is also nearing end of life. In two years it’s over

    [–] M137@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's the same with windows though, I can't get Windows 11 on my laptop.

    Same with many things, it's just not feasible to support decade old hardware with new updates.

    [–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You pay for linux with your time and sanity.

    [–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

    except the time is spent learning something instead of waiting for the pc to update(or you can, of course, use one of the many common distros that require no time to understand, eg. linux mint, fedora, tuxedoOS etc)

    [–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

    It used to be the case yea, but my experience last 5 years or so has been that especially for old hardware everything works out of the box.

    Might be extremely hardware or distro dependent though.

    [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    You can, but not officially.

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