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I am curious how this will turn out. Germany is not known for state driven digital innovation and this is a huge project.
Even though I am highly sceptic, I hope they finally manage to get something going because Germany and whole Europe needs more independence from US hyperscalers.
I fear this will die in good old German bureaucracy though.
I believe so too, but there is hope because at least they're trying something. It should be "released" into the alpha stage in December, but I have no idea what it will look like.
This makes me skeptical too. I'd be interested to hear about smaller projects to replace some creaky system relying on the output of some long-gone contractor's overengineered software being faxed around.
Those projects have no cool name and are probably really hard to get funding for. But sometimes I can't help but feel that might be more effective than these "big bang" projects.
Oh clearly, let me fill my taxes online please
Oh clearly, let me fill my taxes online please
Oh clearly, let me fill my taxes online please
Probably like DE-mail.
DE-mail was doomed to fail from the start. Here, they did some things right. Let's see how it turns out.
What's that?
German encrypted E-Mail service for official business (taxes and so on). Nice idea but execution was broken from start. German government doing IT is a running joke.
It wasn't end to end encrypted though because that wouldn't have allowed server side virus scanning
Pity :/ They have millions to spend.
Actually, IBM and Germany have a long history of state driven digital innovation ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
Long history would imply continuity, not "so long ago that nobody in the comment section is old enough to have lived through it".
But surprised by the backlash here, but I was thinking 21 century Germany.
And in the last 20 years germany did not manage to do anything when it comes to digitalization. Hell, our schools still use overhead projectors.
Not to forget that fax machines are still in use, the German government is using an excessive amount of paper and the lack of any type of digitalization or even a strategy to solve this problem on a national level
Glad comments don't get disappeared through downvoting, it's bad when people want to erase history.
Dude Germany is literally the reason we have computers.
People love to give Turing all the credit, but he wouldn’t have needed to build it if not for the Germans.